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Originally Posted by Boraxo
Damn, you stole my line!
I once stayed at the La Costa Resort in Carlsbad and had to be up at 8am every day for business meetings. Every night late and then early morning I would hear footsteps in the room above me walking across the room. Then stopping. Then walking across the room. Then stopping. Again and again and again. This went on for hours. I called security several times, whereupon the noise would briefly stop. I am a light sleeper and needless to say I did not sleep well. Finally on the last day I went upstairs to see if I could determine the source of my misery. Lo and behold, the maid had left the door open. I peered inside and discovered a golf putter. And suddenly it all became clear. I removed the golf club and placed it downstairs near the ice machine. Payback is a *****. :p |
Originally Posted by dchristiva
So stealing was your solution to this problem? :rolleyes:
No putter, no putting, no walking back and forth, no noise. Sounds like a perfect solution to me! ^ |
Originally Posted by KMHT FF
Putting is done by a putter.
No putter, no putting, no walking back and forth, no noise. Sounds like a perfect solution to me! ^ |
Originally Posted by da_guy
Might I suggest instead of prank calling people that you get some ear plugs instead?
Earplugs are also bad if you need to hear an alarm go off in the AM. |
Originally Posted by andrewsheehan
I plopped down $300 US and ordered a handheld cell phone jammer from the U.K.(Illegal in U.S.)
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Originally Posted by mlbcard
Those are cool... how did you get it, they seem to be illegal in US, UK, and EU (unless you are a government or research organization)?
Not only are they illegal to sell or own BUT using one will get you a nice long stay at the nearest federal facility as well as a slew of charges related to interfering with an emergency service. Those blockers don't just interfere with the cellphone you are pissed off about. They kill the cellphones for a good distance away. If someone else was making a 911 call from down the street or from a car, they'd be cut off because of the jammer. From the FCC website: FCC Website on Jammers... Operations Blocking & Jamming The operation of transmitters designed to jam or block wireless communications is a violation of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"). See 47 U.S.C. Sections 301, 302a, 333. The Act prohibits any person from willfully or maliciously interfering with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized under the Act or operated by the U.S. government. 47 U.S.C. Section 333. The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b). Parties in violation of these provisions may be subject to the penalties set out in 47 U.S.C. Sections 501-510. Fines for a first offense can range as high as $11,000 for each violation or imprisonment for up to one year, and the device used may also be seized and forfeited to the U.S. government. Sec 501 of US Code Ch 47 From ths US Code: Sec. 501. General penalty Any person who willfully and knowingly does or causes or suffers to be done any act, matter, or thing, in this chapter prohibited or declared to be unlawful, or who willfully and knowingly omits or fails to do any act, matter, or thing in this chapter required to be done, or willfully and knowingly causes or suffers such omission or failure, shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for such offense, for which no penalty (other than a forfeiture) is provided in this chapter, by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both; except that any person, having been once convicted of an offense punishable under this section, who is subsequently convicted of violating any provision of this chapter punishable under this section, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or both. |
yes
"It seems the travelers were on a subway and one woman had her wallet stolen. Of course, before getting on the subway she had taken a cheap wallet and glued razor blades to the edges, and then left it where it could be seen inside an open purse. They had apparently been able to see and hear the pickpocket howl in pain as he hit the sidewalk running."
^ OMG, That rules! :D I'd try that if I wasn't afraid of getting bled on :rolleyes: Yeah, I wouldn't mind having a cell phone jammer myself for REAL. People just don't no idea how rude they are in some peoples eyes blabbing off on their phones in public all the time. Can't it wait? I wouldn't do that unless it was seriously important. I have a friend with a tattoo shop and there are "no Cell Phone" signs left and right. Plus an obvious display of a smashed up phone and some clever warning and people still feel the right/need to phone away, litterally 1 foot from a graphic request to obstain. And don't even get me started about the phoning drivers. Blooming idiots. |
Originally Posted by mlbcard
Those are cool... how did you get it, they seem to be illegal in US, UK, and EU (unless you are a government or research organization)?
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Originally Posted by mid
It's a Federal Misdemeanor here in the US.
Not only are they illegal to sell or own BUT using one will get you a nice long stay at the nearest federal facility as well as a slew of charges related to interfering with an emergency service. Those blockers don't just interfere with the cellphone you are pissed off about. They kill the cellphones for a good distance away. If someone else was making a 911 call from down the street or from a car, they'd be cut off because of the jammer. From the FCC website: FCC Website on Jammers... Operations Blocking & Jamming The operation of transmitters designed to jam or block wireless communications is a violation of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"). See 47 U.S.C. Sections 301, 302a, 333. The Act prohibits any person from willfully or maliciously interfering with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized under the Act or operated by the U.S. government. 47 U.S.C. Section 333. The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b). Parties in violation of these provisions may be subject to the penalties set out in 47 U.S.C. Sections 501-510. Fines for a first offense can range as high as $11,000 for each violation or imprisonment for up to one year, and the device used may also be seized and forfeited to the U.S. government. Sec 501 of US Code Ch 47 From ths US Code: Sec. 501. General penalty Any person who willfully and knowingly does or causes or suffers to be done any act, matter, or thing, in this chapter prohibited or declared to be unlawful, or who willfully and knowingly omits or fails to do any act, matter, or thing in this chapter required to be done, or willfully and knowingly causes or suffers such omission or failure, shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for such offense, for which no penalty (other than a forfeiture) is provided in this chapter, by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both; except that any person, having been once convicted of an offense punishable under this section, who is subsequently convicted of violating any provision of this chapter punishable under this section, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or both. Your right about them being illegal (as I stated in my post), but I'll share this quote from an article I read before I purchased mine: "In the United States, actively jamming a cell-phone signal is illegal. The FCC, which is the government agency in charge of regulating the airwaves, has established severe penalties for doing so. If you're caught at your local restaurant with the SH066PL2A/B, it's possible you could face an $11,000 fine and a one-year jail term. Possible, but apparently highly unlikely. It seems that the FCC has never charged anyone with this crime, even though the American market is one of the most important when it comes to selling cell-phone jamming equipment. One distributor (who wished to remain anonymous) told me they've exported approximately 300 jammers to the United States this year, more than to any other country." Source: http://slate.msn.com/id/2092059/ |
Originally Posted by andrewsheehan
Easy, just ordered on the company website, they shipped right to me in the U.S., DHL Next Day Air even. I think they pust "testing equipment" or something on the customs invoice.
It's left as an exercise to the reader to look up the relevant statutes regarding falsification of a customs declaration and conspiracy. Jeez, sometimes I feel like I'm the only dork that actually cares about not breaking the law. |
Originally Posted by studentff
That's more courtesy than either of the people in my example gave. I've heard stories of laptop screens being broken by the effects of sudden unannounced reclines, let alone drink/food spills.
Understandably. If he had to leverage off of your seat to get out of his because of lack of space, that's one thing. But there's no excuse for him pusing on your seat continuously; that's about as stupid as the recliner in my example pushing backwards on the seat continuously trying to eek out an extra half inch of recline. And that includes not having KNEES shoved in my back when my seat is up-right! That can get me going. This is one of those issues where there are two opposed groups of people who will just never agree. That's OK. A lot of people ask why I don't recline my seat to gain space taken by the person in front of me, but I don't see the point in inflicting discomfort on someone else when I complain about the same discomfort. I stand by my personal rules for reclining seats. They aren't for everyone, but they work for me. |
If you don't like being around cellphones, go to establishments and use services that prohibit them.
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Next time I am in an airport restroom and hear some idoiot talking on his cell phone inside a stall I plan on flushing every toilet all at once. :D
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
sometimes a situation arises where one knows that simply asking the perpetrator to stop will result in either no viable solution to the problem at hand or perhaps even worsen the problem.
You have amazing insight, because I have had polite conversations with many neighbors and in 95% of the cases they are very apologetic. What are you, twelve? |
Originally Posted by OutOfOffice
Next time I am in an airport restroom and hear some idoiot talking on his cell phone inside a stall I plan on flushing every toilet all at once. :D
It is really disgusting when people do that. |
Originally Posted by OutOfOffice
Next time I am in an airport restroom and hear some [idiot] talking on his cell phone inside a stall I plan on flushing every toilet all at once. :D
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I cannot believe that this thread is in any way serious. The only "revenge" comment that had any merit was letiole's #11. These so called revenge suggestions are the silliest and most childish things I have ever heard and find it hard to believe they come from seasoned travelers. I am also willing to bet that no one who made them is over the age of 35. Travel is a mix of all sorts of situations....pleasant, unpleasant, whatever comes along. Deal with it.
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I did the seat back hit a number of years ago on someone. I was in coach on LH from Germany to the US. The flight was packed and as soon as the wheels were up the guy in front of me slammed the chair back and proceeded snoring. Every 30 minutes, carefully timed on my watch, I would stand up, forearming the seat back hard enough to bounce it as I did so, say oh, excuse me sir, I must have bumped the seat getting up since its back so far, and then take a walk.
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
What’s Your “Hang-Up”?: The Hotel Room Telephone Constantly Ringing Revenge When I am in a hotel room for the night, I usually enjoy peace and quiet without incident. However, on occasion, I sometimes find myself unlucky enough to be next to a room where the inconsiderate guest(s) will blatantly do one or more of the following at inexcusably late hours with no regard whatsoever for other guests (such as myself) who are trying to fall asleep:
If calls to the front desk are futile and produce no results in terms of resolving the matter at hand and nothing else works, what I will do as revenge is wake up early the next morning, pick up the telephone and call the room of the offending guest(s). By the way, I always ensure that I am calling the correct room. I press my ear against the wall to the next room to monitor movement of the guest(s). I then hang up the telephone by quietly using my finger at the exact second the telephone receiver is picked up in the next room. I listen through the wall as the guest usually mutters “Hello. Hello?” while half asleep and then hangs up. I will give a couple of minutes and do something (such as wash up, brush my teeth, etc.) to give the guest a chance to lay back down in bed and go back to sleep before I repeat the same procedure above. Once again, the guest says “Hello. Hello?” and then hangs up. I then immediately call back and repeat the procedure again. By this time the guest starts to become irritated: “Hello. Hello!” and then hangs up in sheer frustration. I do this several more times while randomly varying the time between telephone calls to keep the guest off-guard, always ensuring that the telephone continuously rings before “coincidentally” hanging up the second the guest answers the telephone: “Hello! HELLO!!!” and then slams the receiver of the telephone in absolute disgust. An added bonus is when there is more than one guest in the room and they discuss the telephone situation in disgust and in desperation, not knowing if the telephone is merely malfunctioning. Usually, this does not require an ear pressed against the wall, as they will usually be as loud during their discussion as they were the night before. At worst, I leave the room that morning satisfied with exacting harmless payback against an inconsiderate offender. At best, I have ruined their morning and possibly their day. By the way, depending on the situation, this idea could also work well before going to sleep or, better yet, during the middle of the night if one finds that one cannot go to sleep due to the selfishly inconsiderate acts of the perpetrator. To relegate yourself to the level of the 'perpetrator' is not they way I was brought up and wish everyone else was the same. Actually, you more than likely relegated yourself to one rung LOWER than the 'perpetrator'. You VOLUNTARILY acted inconsiderate. The 'perpetrator', very likely a 1-2 times/year traveler, was unaware they were being rude. D*mn, suck it up and be a bigger person than the other. |
Originally Posted by Luckylxe
People just don't no idea how rude they are in some peoples eyes blabbing off on their phones in public all the time. Can't it wait? I wouldn't do that unless it was seriously important.
Loud and annoying people are loud and annoying whether they're talking on a cell phone or to the person next to them. Quite and polite people are quiet and polite whether they're talking on a cell phone or to the person next to them. I don't understand why people have this irrational fixation on cell phones and people talking on them. If it's OK for two people to talk to eachother, why not a person on a cell phone? |
Originally Posted by dchristiva
Revenge is petty and childish. Grow up and deal with the problem head on.
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Although I have stated the following in the first milepost in this thread...
Originally Posted by Canarsie
Revenge is simply not my style and I am not particularly proud of myself when I exact revenge on someone else, but on rare occasions I find it to be absolutely necessary.
When I wrote “on rare occasions”, I meant that I could count the number of times on one hand where I “exacted revenge”, and by no means did I intend to cause any harm doing so. As I said...
Originally Posted by Canarsie
During my travels, whenever someone or something caused by someone bothers me, I typically either ignore it, chalk it up to experience or shrug it off.
Still, those of you who bluntly pointed out that that is no excuse are correct in doing so — which is why I said that “revenge is simply not my style and I am not particularly proud of myself when I exact revenge on someone else.” This thread was intended to be more light-hearted in nature, but that is not the way it turned out, unfortunately. I thank you for your frank and candid criticism. |
Originally Posted by andrewsheehan
It seems that the FCC has never charged anyone with this crime
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Things I would like to do once in my life
Those paybacks I dream of.....
Pet Peeve #1.... "Campers" (people in airports, malls or other public places who stop either alone to talk on cell phone or in a group to converse)...some day I am going to come up to them with my luggage or whatever else I am carrying and hand it to them and say "since it doesnt look like you are going anywhere anytime fast would you hold this while I go to the ladies room (other variations : while I have lunch, while I take a nap). Pet Peeve #2... Loud Cell phone talkers....go sit/stand next to them and join in phone call.....answer questions they ask person on the other end of the phone, chime in with the "no ways". When they give you a look respond with "well since you were sharing the call with all of us I thought we might as well join in" For those who are saying thinking of revenge is wrong, I will be honest I have one prejudice in the world, stupidity, and those who hit #1 or #2 above I do believe in profiling! |
I only go for revenge if I can get away with it. :p
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Revenge
The jerk who puts the seat in full recline, and refuses to move it when politely asked is a problem. My experience has been most people will respond when politely asked and the flight crew will get involved but there is always an exception.
Then there was the flight to Toronto with jerk in front and jerk behind. Me smack dab in between and Air Canada not caring at all. Jerk in front refused to put his seat upright, the trays wouldn't come down properly (he was a jumper and it was the least space I'd ever had) and because jerk refused neither did his friends so none of us in say row 23 could have our trays down unless we reclined which normally I don't do but I happened to be hungry, even air plane food was appetizing so I put my seat down and jerk behind didn't even ask politely just *****ed a fit and kept pushing my seat knocking my stomach into the tray which I couldn't get back up. I'm getting bruised and Air Canada didn't do a damned thing. I wasn't in the mood so just announced that 24 was hurting me and to STOP! pushing my seat driving me into the tray unless s/he wanted to be arrested and I was ready to press charges of assault. That got everyone's attention. I said if Air Canada didn't do a thing I'd start screaming for security the second I got off the plane. Yes I was mad. 24 apologized. Yeah right sorry that I wouldn't take that crap not sorry s/he was a sadistic jerk! I added that 24 was stuck because the guy in 22 D refused, it was his right to recline (I quoted him) and described him (named his T-shirt slogan) for all and Air Canada's policy was not to interfere according to and I described her too (pointing them out so even those who couldn't see who was talking could tell by looking at them when they stood up though AC person was standing). I told 24 D the best I could do was finish my meal and then she/he (don't remember) could eat and so on because Air Canada was cheap and 22 D has his rights. Everyone was listening and I guess 22 D got embarassed all of a sudden the row went up and for the rest of the flight he didn't recline again. JMHO but the smirk on his face when I was polite suggested he loved spewing his 'line' about his 'rights'. |
Usually I'm above any revenges, but yesterday I just had to. On CSA PRG to HEL a couple in the gate just placed themselves in the middle of the boarding-queue. This happens from time to time so I gave them "the evil eye", but unfortanetely they never looked at me. As we approached the two gate agents the queue divided in two, and the couple chose the left one. Seeing that it moved slower they left it half a minute later, got just in front of me in the right one! It was on the boundrary of socially accepted so I could not say much.
But as we got on the plane I saw them sitting in 22AB, and I was headed for 21A. Having a little decency, I waited until the meal-trays were taken away and instantly made a quick full recline. But there came no complain from behind, to which I had already planned to explain that my recline was because of their behaviour in the gate. So after 10 minutes, I got tired of sitting in recline and raised my seat. Just as well anyway... |
Originally Posted by Lehava
Know I will get flamed for saying this, but hope you become their first. I do hate the loud phone talkers - big time!!!! But revenge should be exacted on the person "doing the crime" not everyone. You use it in a restaurant you mentioned, what about the person carrying their phone just as a precaution because their kids are home with the sitter, who happens to sit in the table next to you. You jam the signal and they miss a serious emergency call.
I mean, if the person was standing on a table and yelling at the top of his/her lungs, wouldn't you expect the management to put a stop to it? There are indeed several establishments that I no longer give my business to because they allow this to go on. I also make a point of telling the management why I am voting with my feet. ...still, that jammer looks mighty tantalizing.... :D |
Originally Posted by Lehava
You use it in a restaurant you mentioned, what about the person carrying their phone just as a precaution because their kids are home with the sitter, who happens to sit in the table next to you. You jam the signal and they miss a serious emergency call.
However, I have personally observed many instances of people abusing cellphone use in fine dining establishments, entertainments venues (i.e. movie theatres, symphony halls) and airplanes. You wonder how people survived in the days before cellphones. Were the sitters better trained for emergencies? Or more likely the parents just less retentive. |
Originally Posted by Boraxo
I have yet to hear of a story where this has actually occurred (someone missing a call about their house burning down or their children throwing up).
However, I have personally observed many instances of people abusing cellphone use in fine dining establishments, entertainments venues (i.e. movie theatres, symphony halls) and airplanes. You wonder how people survived in the days before cellphones. Were the sitters better trained for emergencies? Or more likely the parents just less retentive. Yet with that said, I think Jamming everyone is wrong. Your question on how parents did it before, some had pagers and before that they left the phone number for the restaurant with the sitter. My point was just that we shouldnt punish those who use them correctly in public, for emergencies only, for the few jacka**es who have no manners. Personally if I had my way it would be at least a misdemeanor if you answer one in public at the top of your voice. At least then we would be punishing the right people! |
This thread made me think of something a friend and I did at the MGM Grand last year. We were watching the NFL games on TV. This guy next door obviously had bet money on the game because he kept yelling when something happened in the game. He was yelling really loudly and we were annoyed by this. Since we could tell which team he had money on by his reactions, we cheered and clapped very loudly when the opposing team did something positive: when they scored, stopped his team, got an interception, etc. I'm sure he must have loved that :D
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My pet peeve, not yet mentioned, is people who don't pay attention to the "stand right, walk left" signs on the sliding walkways, spreading themselves and their luggage out and blocking those of us who want to move faster. They always glare at me when I get behind them and ask them to move. Even worse are the couples who get off at the end of the walkway and immediately stop to discuss where they should go next. I'm tempted some day to just crash into them like a bowling ball.
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
How about wishful revenge?
Just back from China, and I sure wish I knew enough Mandarin to be able to try to sell my Timex to one of those wristwatch sales guys! Come to think of it, they usually have learned a little English, maybe I'll try it next time. We all ended up laughing, but future vendors actually skipped our table and -- get this -- tried to sell watches to the LOCALS sitting adjacent to us! |
Canarsie:
Very interesting thread. I remember one revenge. In a hotel in Kamloops, Canada, our room neighbors (2 or 3 people) came back at 3 or 4 at night and started a very, very loud conversation for some time. The next morning (early Sunday morning) the room was quiet .... before we checked out, I put a "please make the room" sign on their door....I hope it worked. |
A little off-topic.
Here is bitter revenge story: Two colleagues sit in one room. "A" never removes bottle, cans etc. "B" collects the trash and sends it collect to "A's" home (collect = getting the freight). "A" get's mad and puts a fish inside the air duct of "B's" car .... it took "B" weeks to find the source of that bad smell ... more "fresh air" = more bad smell. :D Unfortunately, that's a true story ... |
Originally Posted by AllanJ
This pushing on somebody's seat is not revenge. It is obnoxious behavior worthy of revenge.
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Originally Posted by CPRich
So you just absolutely know that knocking on the door and explaining that you are being disturbed won't work. Absolutely certain the person is not just ignorant that the sound transmits to other rooms. That it isn't their first time in a hotel room and they have absolutely no clue what they are doing is wrong? That perhaps they will apologize and stop doing it for all future guests vs. continuing because they don't know better?
You have amazing insight, because I have had polite conversations with many neighbors and in 95% of the cases they are very apologetic. The point is that people who care about other people don't need to be asked to be quiet, because they don't bother others in the first place. If they don't care, asking is pointless because they don't care. I don't buy the lie that "I just didn't know I was bothering you." So yes, I'm absolutely sure they had a clue what they were doing was wrong. Heck, I'd be highly insulted if I had my stereo set to 11 and you came over and asked, "Did you know your stero can be heard outside your room?" Of course I would know -- I'm not a moron. |
I like to do this if in a washroom with no one but the offender. A guy is talking on his cell phone in the washroom or in a stall. I finish up and then stand near the guy's stall and procede to make the loudest farting noises by blowing into my hands. As soon as the guy is onto me I make a dash for it and blend in with the crowd. :D :D
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Sort of a traveller's revenge story.
I used to work with "Frank" (his real name is Frank). Frank was an A$$hole with a capital A. Frank did something to a friend of mine who was powerless to retaliate. When she told me the story, I offered to retaliate for her. Frank scheduled a plant tour. The tour originated at BDL with stops at ORD, LAX and MEI. I packed 100 pounds of obsolete physical inventory tickets in a carton and told Frank I was trusting him to deliver them to Meridian in time for the inventory. After Frank left, I called Meridian and let them in on the joke. Frank Schlepped 100# of junk from airport to hotel, over and over. When he got to the last stop, he was asked to open the carton in front of the plant accounting staff, who yelled, "Surprise! Wrong tickets" when he opened the box. Frank came back with vengeance in mind. When he arrived in the office on Monday, he found that Friday had been my last day and I now worked for another company. Frank, if you're out there, I bet you're still a clueless A$$hole. With a capital A. |
not sure how exactly caransie's account is harmless! imagine being woken up several times all morning :D !! Way to go ^
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