Personally I think that all children should be check as baggage. I would rather pets fly in the cabin and everyone under 12 years old in the belly. Or maybe a seperate section for those with small children. Better yet, an entire airline just for families! Yea that is it!

(Don't attack me, I was being silly)

wow.

Rest assured, the feeling is mutual. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

I've tried to stay out of this for as long as I can, and will mostly stay out of the fray, but I think I was the only person who noticed this gem and was disgusted by it:

I don't know what I'd do if a complete stranger asked me to hold their child's soiled diaper. I'm flabbergasted just reading about it! I'm sorry, but that's going waaay too far in my book.

If this is the level of dicussion that I can expect in this debate, then I'm off.

Difference: Family travelling with children is perfectly legal. Watching porno on a plane might be considered in violation of decency laws.

It's obvious that some posters here don't like travelling with children (or feel that their children are perfect).

Not everyone manages to reach such level of perfection. This topic quickly went from changing nappies in the middle seat to parents who let their kids cry.

Not much more to add to this thread, going far too OMNI for Buzz.

Too far indeed! I certainly would not have allowed it to happen next to me without making a whole lot bigger stink than the diaper. I would be SCREAMING for the FA's. There is *NO* EXCUSE for doing this in a coach seat, period.
Edited to add: By the way, I have no problem wih crying children.They don't endanger my health in any way. Feces in the seat next to me does.


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You see that too. We are agreeing on a few things, aren't we. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif

I don't think anyone has seriosly complained about the children. We are comlaining about the irresponsible actions of a few hygienicly challenged PARENTS. I love kids, & have no problem traveling with them, even on international flights. I have helped other parents with their children so they could get a break. I once gave up my seat in 1st so a couple with a child could sit together. Pleas, DO NOT imply that I am predjudiced against children who travel, as I once was one.

I find this attitude nearly as selfish as the diaper changer.

This from the MC of bizarro world...

Selfish to think it rude that someone would bring a baby into an R-rated movie because they were too cheap to get a sitter?

They are the selfish ones, not I.

No, selfish to think that a common carrier airline's scheduled flight is your private nap time or that your virgin ears are too tender to be subjected to the natural sounds of life. Be glad you can hear the baby over the engine noise!

It never ceases to amaze me how self-centered and oblivious some people are. Of course this doesn't just apply to parents (see prior AA thread about the gentlemen in first class who cut his nails during meal service) though they often seem to feel that the rules of good behavior don't apply to babies. Last I checked, babies don't change their own diapers.

Regardless of the health issues - and I have no doubt that one should be concerned about fecal matter entering the food chain via airlines seats -- I cannot fathom that anyone seriously believes it is acceptable to change a diaper on a seat in a plane full of strangers when you can walk 50 feet or less to the nearest lavatory.

To those that do, I ask:

(1) How would you feel if I urinate in a water bottle because I do not feel like walking to the bathroom?

(2) Would you object if my gf changes her tampon in her seat because cramps make it painful for her to walk to the bathroom?

Never fails. Every thread about babies flying degenerates exactly the same way. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Maybe not, but I sometimes am in awe over what I do see parents do. I'm sorry for the late response and, perhaps, this genious was in the minority. However, I saw a dad playing with what I'm assuming was his baby. Who, I guess, didn't like it, and was making a lot of noise to suggest this was the case. However, the man I'm presuming was dad continued. Why? I don't know. But I was annoyed and he didn't seem to notice.

Whatever was the thought process behind assuming that was a good idea is probably the same one that decides there is such a thing as so neatly changing a diaper I can neither see nor smell the foul material therein, nor be harmed by it. These are the same surfaces off which some of us elect to eat.

Remember what they say about people's pools and toilets.

Please, show some respect. I don't care what it takes to get it together. Just, get it together.

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Best regards,
Dairenn Lombard
Los Angeles, CA

Wow - I was stunned to see 3 pages of threads on this.

First, I don't have kids. But my ex-fiance & a lot of my friends & family do, and we've talked re: kids & flying, so I have that background to work from.

Having said that I don't hate having kids on flights. We were all kids once on flights.

Having said that, unless a flight is way out from landing &/or the captain says you can't get up from your seat & your child really really has to go poo/pee & it would endanger their health not to do so, I see zero reason/justification for changing a diaper in the seat/aisle. That's what a bathroom is for!

To say otherwise is spurious, ill-mannered, uninformed & otherwise rude. And those folk I mentioned above agree.

And yes, I would say something (politely but firmly) if someone attempted to change a diaper next to me (other than under extenuating circumstances).

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Sharon