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One item in the bin, regardless of size (subject to crew-determined size restrictions; no one's carrying on a steamer trunk).
So if you checked your rollaboard, you put the backpack in the bin. Anyone ever offered to put the small backpack they want to move under the seat in front of their seat? Assuming both passengers are seating nearby one another, why not? |
Originally Posted by rickg523
(Post 30348575)
Anyone ever offered to put the small backpack they want to move under the seat in front of their seat? Assuming both passengers are seating nearby one another, why not?
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight. |
Originally Posted by zulu1128
(Post 30348134)
If all a person has is a backpack, then I think it’s fine to put it in the bin. Suitcase + backpack = now we’re going to have a chat. |
Person A hasn't met me.
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Qantas is attempting to resolve this (although TBH it's really not much of a problem in Australia- see below) two ways:
1. At the gate, if people have two bags, the attendant ties a red tag on the smaller one and tell the passenger it has to go under the seat 2. On boarding, making announcements to the effect "if you are travelling with two bags, please place only the larger item in the overhead locker, and the smaller item under the seat in front of you" I suspect one reason why this is not such a major issue in Australia is that all the airlines have allocated seating - there is no mad dash or boarding group. Seems to reduce the "got to get on first with my 15 bags" mindset and people generally are reasonable about what they bring. Also Qantas and Virgin have no charge for 20kg checked baggage so you don't "have" to bring excess carryon. Also, you know, Australians are just so much more civilised travellers in general ;) |
Originally Posted by eastindywalrus
(Post 30348654)
Serious answer: Because I don't want anyone's feet near my backpack, especially when it has electronics and a laptop in it.
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight. Also in this regard, on a lengthy trip I will check my rollaboard (even though it is cabin compliant), throw that small backpack up in the bin, and place my messenger bag, with electronics, documents, etc. under the seat in front of me. So in the OP's situation, I would have definitely told the person that my footwell is occupied, but if they're willing to put my backpack in front of their feet, they can pull it and put their bag up. Always presuming they're near enough in the cabin that it won't be a production when we disembark. |
Originally Posted by rickg523
(Post 30348738)
Well of course it's circumstance dependant. As you say, if it's fragile stuff even the OHB is treacherous. What I was getting at is the backpack with spare stuff in case your checked bag gets delayed or misrouted. You do this right? Spare change of clothes and toiletries so you can move on with your trip while Incompetent Air figures out how to ship bags and passengers to the same place at the same time.
Also in this regard, on a lengthy trip I will check my rollaboard (even though it is cabin compliant), throw that small backpack up in the bin, and place my messenger bag, with electronics, documents, etc. under the seat in front of me. So in the OP's situation, I would have definitely told the person that my footwell is occupied, but if they're willing to put my backpack in front of their feet, they can pull it and put their bag up. Always presuming they're near enough in the cabin that it won't be a production when we disembark. |
Originally Posted by eastindywalrus
(Post 30348765)
If your backpack is full of nothing but clothes, then yeah, I can understand why you wouldn't be too concerned. For me, I typically travel with a (checked) suitcase and my backpack, which is the only thing I bring onto the plane with me. So it holds all of my gear - that's not going near someone else's feet, sorry.
Btw, once I get to the destination and reclaim my suitcase, the spare clothes and backpack (North Face packable type) go into the rollaboard. So I'm not dealing with three items on the ground. |
Originally Posted by eastindywalrus
(Post 30348654)
Serious answer: Because I don't want anyone's feet near my backpack, especially when it has electronics and a laptop in it.
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight. |
IMO it's pretty clear -- you get 1 carry on and 1 personal item, and your carry-on can go in the overhead bin. If you bring a smaller carry-on than most people, that's just you being nice -- you are taking up less space in the overhead bin than if you took a roller bag. That doesn't mean that you don't get to use the bin.
This is exactly why there are boarding groups -- because it is first come first serve. And that's why they give away earlier boarding to elites or people who pay for more expensive classes of service. If I didn't have a carry-on I'd rather board the flight at the last possible minute. |
Originally Posted by samwise6222
(Post 30348405)
I've recently had a large tote in the overhead bin, and some dude try to argue with me how I had to put that under the seat in front of me.
Except I had to tell him that my purse was already there and my tote was basically my "large" item. |
Originally Posted by secondsoprano
(Post 30348687)
Qantas is attempting to resolve this (although TBH it's really not much of a problem in Australia- see below) two ways:
1. At the gate, if people have two bags, the attendant ties a red tag on the smaller one and tell the passenger it has to go under the seat 2. On boarding, making announcements to the effect "if you are travelling with two bags, please place only the larger item in the overhead locker, and the smaller item under the seat in front of you" I suspect one reason why this is not such a major issue in Australia is that all the airlines have allocated seating - there is no mad dash or boarding group. Seems to reduce the "got to get on first with my 15 bags" mindset and people generally are reasonable about what they bring. Also Qantas and Virgin have no charge for 20kg checked baggage so you don't "have" to bring excess carryon. Also, you know, Australians are just so much more civilised travellers in general ;) In Australia, there's also a (low) weight limit for carry on bags. I've been yelled at by airport security checkpoint employees for legal sized wheeled roller bags that were too heavy. |
Originally Posted by Collierkr
(Post 30349001)
you know your stuff is probably safer and less likely to get damaged if at your feet in the floor. Less potential energy, less chance someone stuffs something on top of it. However, on the floor your stuff risks someone spilling a drink on it, which normally doesn't/can't happen in the overhead bin. |
I know this is unrelated to DL, but BA have a policy where if someone has a small piece of hand luggage, they put a yellow tag on it, this means that all yellow tagged bags have to go under the seat.
I am 100% against this, as you are essentially rewarding people for bringing a bigger bag on to the plane. if i want to put my backpack up top, I should be able to do it. |
Originally Posted by Collierkr
(Post 30349001)
you know your stuff is probably safer and less likely to get damaged if at your feet in the floor. Less potential energy, less chance someone stuffs something on top of it. |
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