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Horizontally challenged
I did a research on searchguru about seat widths in business class ( economy class is no question already booking I am already booking 2 seats, if I have luck, armrests are movable, and the seats are conjoined);
Large meaning tall people have their emergency seat, and seat pitch in some business class are nice for them, but what we horizontally challenged people who loves flying are in . Even a simple return flight is a problem, award booking requires luck on Gods level. Second what I see based on seatguru only 10 Airlines has at least 26" in business class, and a surprise 4 of them are Chinese (CZ,CI,BR,MF), 3 european(SU,IB,BA), 1 singaporean (SQ),korean(OZ),african(KQ) and 0 US. Is that record right a measure between inner sides of armrests? Where are big US/EU airlines ? Only United is the with their short haul embraer with 24". I would expected more wider seats in US. May I deny the flight and get back money or rebook on a more suitable flight when I cant fit into in business class seat? Last time this happened to me I was downgraded to economy with a whole row without any service with no compensation. I dont think its right. In Europe I travel now with high speed trains, but also on those are changing to crappy airline economy budget seats, so I must travel overnight |
It's a little unclear, but are you asking if you can cancel the ticket and get a refund if, upon boarding the flight, you find at that point that the seat won't accommodate you?
Also, you mention 26" seat width - is that the minimum you require or are you just noting the widest seat dimensions you could find? |
I would get the United 24" E-175 seat independently confirmed. I was posting elsewhere today that the E-175 is a fantastic short-haul airplane, in part because the 1x2 config in F is quite roomy. But that's 3-4" wider than most F seats on E-175's on other airlines, or 9 to 12 inches of total aisle space unless United has some unusually slim seat design (in terms of the total width of the entire seat for a given amount of actual buttspace). In other words, I immediately wonder if Seatguru has it wrong.
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Seatguru data is wrong often enough to require great skepticism.
Also, there isn't a good industry standard for seat width the way there is for pitch. |
UA's site claims 20" on the E-175 and 24" on the E-170. 24" seems hard to believe.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...5/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...0/default.aspx |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 29194168)
I would get the United 24" E-175 seat independently confirmed. I was posting elsewhere today that the E-175 is a fantastic short-haul airplane, in part because the 1x2 config in F is quite roomy. But that's 3-4" wider than most F seats on E-175's on other airlines, or 9 to 12 inches of total aisle space unless United has some unusually slim seat design (in terms of the total width of the entire seat for a given amount of actual buttspace). In other words, I immediately wonder if Seatguru has it wrong.
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Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29193654)
It's a little unclear, but are you asking if you can cancel the ticket and get a refund if, upon boarding the flight, you find at that point that the seat won't accommodate you?
Also, you mention 26" seat width - is that the minimum you require or are you just noting the widest seat dimensions you could find? I can squeeze into 22" but that's not comfortable (over 4-5 hours), 24" is doable , but 26" or more is ideal for long-haul. Sadly I can't travel everywhere with Singapore Airlines they have my dream seats (on long-hauls), and VIE is not served by them so I must travel by train either to FRA/ZRH/MXP |
Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 29195539)
I completely agree. AA has the same configuration in their E175s and are 3 or 4 inches narrower in first according to seat guru. Also, according to SeatGuru United Polaris First on a 744 or 777 is 22 inches wide. I’m really skeptical of the 24 inch SeatGuru number on E175s. My longhaul C experience is mainly SQ(many), EK(medium hauls via DXB), TK (IST-SIN), but now I am planning to see US and Caribics , I can get to NYC on SQ without detour via SIN, but from there I dont see any options, maybe somebodz more experienced can help, otherwise I have to choose a cruise ship TATL+Caribics, which is too much time and money |
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29193654)
It's a little unclear, but are you asking if you can cancel the ticket and get a refund if, upon boarding the flight, you find at that point that the seat won't accommodate you?
Also, you mention 26" seat width - is that the minimum you require or are you just noting the widest seat dimensions you could find? |
Can't you check with the airline(s) first?
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Those of us who aren’t “horizontally challenged” don’t simply have our size handed to us. i work out for an hour a day from 5:45am to 6:45am during the workweek, and usually an hour a day on weekends, and pass up a lot of good food. That keeps me from being “horizontally challenged”. Would you prefer to have to deal with that regimen? Or would you prefer a less-comfortable flight every now and then? The latter, which is the choice you’ve made, is definitely an easier and likely more enjoyable choice. |
Originally Posted by kobolcs
(Post 29195806)
I am skeptical about all seat width datas on the internet, if I didn't tried it before. That why ask here.
My longhaul C experience is mainly SQ(many), EK(medium hauls via DXB), TK (IST-SIN), but now I am planning to see US and Caribics , I can get to NYC on SQ without detour via SIN, but from there I dont see any options, maybe somebodz more experienced can help, otherwise I have to choose a cruise ship TATL+Caribics, which is too much time and money |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 29196301)
Those of us who aren’t “horizontally challenged” don’t simply have our size handed to us. i work out for an hour a day from 5:45am to 6:45am during the workweek, and usually an hour a day on weekends, and pass up a lot of good food. That keeps me from being “horizontally challenged”. Would you prefer to have to deal with that regimen? Or would you prefer a less-comfortable flight every now and then? The latter, which is the choice you’ve made, is definitely an easier and likely more enjoyable choice. |
Originally Posted by The_Bouncer
(Post 29196342)
Actually, you can get to NYC on SQ - on their 5th freedom flight from FRA.
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Originally Posted by DragonSoul
(Post 29196140)
Can't you check with the airline's) first?
Which I need to try out in C. All others pricing 2x fare+taxes. for two seats |
Originally Posted by kobolcs
(Post 29196374)
I prefer travel as comfortable as possible, but I am not a sheik to own a boeing777 customized to my needs.
Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 29195539)
I completely agree. AA has the same configuration in their E175s and are 3 or 4 inches narrower in first according to seat guru. Also, according to SeatGuru United Polaris First on a 744 or 777 is 22 inches wide. I’m really skeptical of the 24 inch SeatGuru number on E175s. According to UA, Polaris seats are only 20.something. The numbers don't add up. Otherwise I don't have much to add. I can say that KLM WBC mockup felt a bit too tight in lie-flat shape. LH J seat (this time airplane mounted) felt much more comfortable, even if just couple inches wider. |
Originally Posted by kobolcs
(Post 29196374)
I prefer travel as comfortable as possible, but I am not a sheik to own a boeing777 customized to my needs.
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk
(Post 29196856)
missed the point completely....
According to UA, Polaris seats are only 20.something. The numbers don't add up. Otherwise I don't have much to add. I can say that KLM WBC mockup felt a bit too tight in lie-flat shape. LH J seat (this time airplane mounted) felt much more comfortable, even if just couple inches wider. |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 29196301)
Those of us who aren’t “horizontally challenged” don’t simply have our size handed to us. i work out for an hour a day from 5:45am to 6:45am during the workweek, and usually an hour a day on weekends, and pass up a lot of good food. That keeps me from being “horizontally challenged”. Would you prefer to have to deal with that regimen? Or would you prefer a less-comfortable flight every now and then? The latter, which is the choice you’ve made, is definitely an easier and likely more enjoyable choice. |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 29205126)
Surprised it took until post #11 to get this one. Flyertalk is going soft! :eek:
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Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29195426)
UA's site claims 20" on the E-175 and 24" on the E-170. 24" seems hard to believe.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...5/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...0/default.aspx Of course, user comments would be quick to point out the pitch being worse than stated...people aren't likely to pay attention to F width unless the seat is abnormally narrow. |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 29196301)
Those of us who aren’t “horizontally challenged” don’t simply have our size handed to us. i work out for an hour a day from 5:45am to 6:45am during the workweek, and usually an hour a day on weekends, and pass up a lot of good food. That keeps me from being “horizontally challenged”. Would you prefer to have to deal with that regimen? Or would you prefer a less-comfortable flight every now and then? The latter, which is the choice you’ve made, is definitely an easier and likely more enjoyable choice. |
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