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KDS777 Dec 9, 2017 9:00 am

Explain the origin of "kettle" for me
 
I only see this term used to refer to inexperienced economy class pax here on this forum so I was curious where it was derived from. How did it's application come about ?

The two things that come to mind are the common saying " the pot calling the kettle black" where perhaps two members were debating a point and this came up........or the kids nursery rhyme "I'm a little teapot short and stout".........

DenverBrian Dec 9, 2017 9:01 am

Comes from the Ma and Pa Kettle movie series from the 40s and 50s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_and_Pa_Kettle

AugustusM Dec 9, 2017 9:07 am

And the implication is you're a rube with no sophistication in regards flying etiquette.

xliioper Dec 9, 2017 9:07 am

Oops, too late.

KDS777 Dec 9, 2017 9:13 am

Thank you Denver Brian.

I've heard of them but they were not on my radar screen. Sort of an earlier version of the Beverley Hillbillies.

DenverBrian Dec 9, 2017 9:16 am


Originally Posted by KDS777 (Post 29153466)
Thank you Denver Brian.

I've heard of them but they were not on my radar screen. Sort of an earlier version of the Beverley Hillbillies.

Lesser-used to describe Kettles are to describe them as the Joads. I leave you to explore that reference. :D :D :D

seenitall Dec 9, 2017 9:36 am


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 29153473)
Lesser-used to describe Kettles are to describe them as the Joads. I leave you to explore that reference. :D :D :D

I would not make this connection. If you read The Grapes of Wrath, you will see that the awareness and sophistication of the Joads, particularly that of Tom and its growth, over that of the entrenched political class, is one of the main points of the novel.

Ocn Vw 1K Dec 9, 2017 9:42 am

This is definitely not a term unique to UA ;)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...-s-kettle.html

Please follow as the discussion moves to the TravelBuzz forum.

Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator.

BearX220 Dec 9, 2017 11:09 am

It's definitely not a term of affection. The Joads were not objects of mockery; the infrequent flyers FT often terms "Kettles" definitely are. The Ma and Pa Kettle movies made fun of their principals.

It's a belittling strategy in the name of tribal gatekeeping, although I will never understand why people feel the need to belittle those who don't know as many acronyms, fare classes, etc. as they do. It's not very nice.

DavidDTW Dec 9, 2017 11:36 am

Usually a term applied to infrequent flyers, but the only travelers I see behaving like kettles are the elite passengers all trying to be the first one to board a flight.

Carnforth Dec 9, 2017 12:50 pm

It's how the toffs pronounce 'Cattle'

DenverBrian Dec 9, 2017 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by seenitall (Post 29153548)
I would not make this connection. If you read The Grapes of Wrath, you will see that the awareness and sophistication of the Joads, particularly that of Tom and its growth, over that of the entrenched political class, is one of the main points of the novel.

OK, Buzz Killington. :D :D :D

I'm thinking more the movie and the allusions to bringing all your worldly possessions with you on the journey.


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hotturnip Dec 9, 2017 3:16 pm

Except people here never capitalize it, which would make the reference to Ma and Pa Kettle more obvious.

Except Ma and Pa Kettle were always nice and well-meaning, just ignorant, which doesn't always apply to the "kettles" referred to around here.

kettle1 Dec 9, 2017 5:12 pm

What is wrong with Kettles?
Signed,
kettle1

RRDD Dec 9, 2017 8:00 pm

If you grew up watching TV/Movies in the 40s/50s it's "kettles"; 60s/70s it's "ziffels"; 80s/90s it's "castanzas".


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