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steve170461 Dec 11, 2017 5:34 am

[QUOTE Loud enough so that everyone in the vicinity would hear it and the perpetrator would be thoroughly embarrassed and not do it again. If they did it a 2nd time, they'd have a broken jaw. ][/QUOTE]

So another adult who thinks it's OK to disturb the whole cabin and then resort to violence when someone has an issue with it.:td:

Badenoch Dec 11, 2017 7:21 am


Originally Posted by steve170461 (Post 29159733)
So another adult who thinks it's OK to disturb the whole cabin and then resort to violence when someone has an issue with it.:td:

So another adult who thinks its OK to put his hands on a complete stranger while he is asleep and is dumbfounded to discover that there might be a violent response.

Instead of being critical you should thank him for his post. Should you decide to poke a complete stranger on a plane because he is snoring and get a shot in the face for your troubles don't say you weren't aware of the possibility.

Zeeb Dec 11, 2017 7:51 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29160005)
So another adult who thinks its OK to put his hands on a complete stranger while he is asleep and is dumbfounded to discover that there might be a violent response.

Instead of being critical you should thank him for his post. Should you decide to poke a complete stranger on a plane because he is snoring and get a shot in the face for your troubles don't say you weren't aware of the possibility.

https://i.imgur.com/nhiY6HP.jpg

Even this dog could win the case of "guy breaks another guys jaw because he was mad about getting woken up on a plane".

Badenoch Dec 11, 2017 8:27 am


Originally Posted by Zeeb (Post 29160119)
Even this dog could win the case of "guy breaks another guys jaw because he was mad about getting woken up on a plane".

It's not mad about being woken up but a possible reaction to someone putting his hands on you while you are asleep. The court will also take into account that the person poking a sleeping stranger instigated the encounter and is therefore partially responsible.

Keep your hands to yourself. Winning in court when your jaw is wired shut and you are drinking your meals through a straw is hardly a victory.

steve170461 Dec 11, 2017 8:40 am


Instead of being critical you should thank him for his post. Should you decide to poke a complete stranger on a plane because he is snoring and get a shot in the face for your troubles don't say you weren't aware of the possibility.

So you do condone violence in reply to a gentle prod on the shoulder-a non-violent act?? I think I realise who has the real issue. Now where can i find a link to anger management classes for you?

rbwpi Dec 11, 2017 8:48 am

This thread has great content when it comes to "keyboard courage".

Badenoch Dec 11, 2017 10:31 am


Originally Posted by steve170461 (Post 29160338)
So you do condone violence in reply to a gentle prod on the shoulder-a non-violent act?? I think I realise who has the real issue. Now where can i find a link to anger management classes for you?

Where can I find reading comprehension classes for you? Nowhere in this thread have I condoned or threatened a physical response. What I have pointed out is that a violent response is a possibility and to seek alternatives to putting your hands on sleeping strangers and shaking them awake because they are snoring.


Originally Posted by steve170461 (Post 29121394)
I eventually shook him and woke him and stated the issue

Keep your hands to yourself unless you are prepared to deal with the potential consequences.

invisible Dec 13, 2017 5:14 pm


Originally Posted by rbwpi (Post 29160364)
This thread has great content when it comes to "keyboard courage".

Yep. Whole platoon of Keyboard Warriors.

Zeeb Dec 14, 2017 7:07 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29160284)
It's not mad about being woken up but a possible reaction to someone putting his hands on you while you are asleep. The court will also take into account that the person poking a sleeping stranger instigated the encounter and is therefore partially responsible.

Keep your hands to yourself. Winning in court when your jaw is wired shut and you are drinking your meals through a straw is hardly a victory.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnc...ized-large.gif

greggarious Dec 15, 2017 9:13 am

At one point I had a job as a camp counselor for at risk teens. Some of them had PTSD, symptoms of which include an "exaggerated startle response" when someone touches them while sleeping. (I'll leave it unsaid why a teenager would start punching anyone who touched them while sleeping)

This response can also be found in POWs and other veterans.

If you wake someone up with such a condition, you will not have much of a case since you commited battery on a sleeping person.

This doesn't mean being poked while sleeping is a license to deliver a beat down, but if you lash out instinctively at someone you have not committed a crime.

Also keep in mind that many states have "stand your ground" laws which do not distinguish between what type of battery was inflicted.

In general, the law takes a dim view of people who commit crimes then expect their victims to moderate their responses to verbal replies.


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