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Originally Posted by rbwpi
(Post 29125502)
Where did I say anything about poking the snorer? I made it perfectly clear in a prior post that any type of physical contact would be unacceptable.
Bottom line, I'm not about to suffer quietly while someone causes me discomfort.
Originally Posted by Carnforth
(Post 29131577)
That's your interpretation of good and bad manners and I guess that different people will have different criteria.
Another person might be of the belief that it's good manners not to want to publicly cause embarrassment to someone by waking them and pointing out their involuntary actions. |
Originally Posted by SingaporeJunkie
(Post 29125859)
Yea I agree. As I said earlier, putting your hands on a stranger is never okay. That being said, let's not make a martyr out of a snorer just because it's "unconscious and unintended."
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What is surprising is the number of people who think they can go through life poking complete strangers without eventually getting a shot in the mouth in return. Keep your hands to yourself. If someone else's snoring, crying baby, loud chatter, etc. bothers you get good ear plugs or noise reducing headphones.
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Originally Posted by Badenoch
(Post 29136035)
What is surprising is the number of people who think they can go through life poking complete strangers without eventually getting a shot in the mouth in return. Keep your hands to yourself. If someone else's snoring, crying baby, loud chatter, etc. bothers you get good ear plugs or noise reducing headphones.
What is more surprising, and to me, quite disappointing is the number of people who immediately would resort to some sort of physical retaliation when a "common sense" approach has been used to resolve an issue that is disturbing a cabin full of passengers. Those passengers also deserve a degree of respect and "protection" for want of a better word. I go through life, perhaps naively trying to treat others as I would expect to be treated.I would be mortified if i thought any action of mine, either consciously or sub-consciously was having a major negative affect on others. |
Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 29135154)
However yelling in someone's ear (assuming no headphones) is permissible?
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Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 29135154)
That in itself is an assault...
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You're an adult, empowered to make such a vast decision without the help of others. What I think shouldn't matter to you.
It's OK to wake someone up; it's OK to not wake someone up. It's OK either way. Do what ever you want. Or don't. It's YOUR call. |
Originally Posted by steve170461
(Post 29137575)
I wasn't going to comment again but here goes.
What is more surprising, and to me, quite disappointing is the number of people who immediately would resort to some sort of physical retaliation when a "common sense" approach has been used to resolve an issue that is disturbing a cabin full of passengers. Those passengers also deserve a degree of respect and "protection" for want of a better word. I go through life, perhaps naively trying to treat others as I would expect to be treated.I would be mortified if i thought any action of mine, either consciously or sub-consciously was having a major negative affect on others. |
Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 29121410)
Yes.
In fact, by doing this, it is possible that you could face battery charge if the person you woke up intended to press charge. Or 'pressing battery charges' is another case of internet warriors? P.S. Recommendation to all those 'assault/battery' ones - you should not consider travelling in Asia and Kthulhu forbid going to an oriental market where you be elbowed, pushed and other way physically touched when you end up on local people's way. Bring your own lawyer with you to make sure to press charges every time someone physically touches you. Better - sell tickets on this show, it will be very entertaining. |
Originally Posted by invisible
(Post 29139503)
Just wonder - any successful cases pressing battery charges for waking someone up on plane? Could you please provide court and case number?
For example, littering is illegal and can be prosecution in many jurisdictions. In reality - how many are actually caught? The advice is given to OP as CYA to avoid physical contacts, rather than saying that OP will be prosecuted.
Originally Posted by invisible
(Post 29139503)
P.S. Recommendation to all those 'assault/battery' ones - you should not consider travelling in Asia and Kthulhu forbid going to an oriental market where you be elbowed, pushed and other way physically touched when you end up on local people's way. Bring your own lawyer with you to make sure to press charges every time someone physically touches you. Better - sell tickets on this show, it will be very entertaining.
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I think the OP was in the wrong to wake the guy up, as I posted upthread. But I'm also still enjoying all the internet tough guy/DYKWIA type posts saying that it was battery, or that they'd reply with a punch or something. It was kind of rude because a plane is a public place and you have to deal with annoyances like someone snoring. It wasn't illegal and if there had been a more valid reason to wake them up then giving them a touch on the shoulder or whatever would be a perfectly valid way to do it. I've been woken up by FAs like that numerous times as they asked me to put my seat back up to prepare for landing. I've never felt an impulse to throw a punch or file a complaint.
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One must never touch strangers in their sleep - you never know how they will react. I had a roommate in college who would lash out viciously when woken up by anyone - arms and fists swinging violently. Had you tapped this girl, I guarantee you, you would have had a black eye or a broken nose or a loose tooth. This was her default reaction.
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This reminds me of a great laugh. Sometimes, my snoring will wake me up, and it is a loud, very jolting way to awaken. One time this happened to me on the airplane when I had the newspaper. As I awoke, I threw some of the paper, flying out to the aisle for being startled, at the passenger's feet. The rest of the paper was laying at my feet.
I was embarrassed at the time for making a mess of the airplane, but as I write this now I get a great laugh! |
I was on a flight recently and found myself wondering "What is that noise?" It was a very loud snoring man a few seats up. He was left alone until it was time to touch down.
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Originally Posted by Zeeb
(Post 29141160)
I think the OP was in the wrong to wake the guy up, as I posted upthread. But I'm also still enjoying all the internet tough guy/DYKWIA type posts saying that it was battery, or that they'd reply with a punch or something. It was kind of rude because a plane is a public place and you have to deal with annoyances like someone snoring. It wasn't illegal and if there had been a more valid reason to wake them up then giving them a touch on the shoulder or whatever would be a perfectly valid way to do it. I've been woken up by FAs like that numerous times as they asked me to put my seat back up to prepare for landing. I've never felt an impulse to throw a punch or file a complaint.
Your comparison to FA's waking you up for safety infractions is preposterous. |
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