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Lack of 5th freedom has everything to do with negotiated bilateral treaties and very little to do with passenger volumes. If TK is flying IST-JNB-DUR-IST and not just IST-JNB-IST, it is because it wants to serve both cities. There would not be enough flow to fill that plane just from IST-JNB-IST or just IST-DUR-IST. This way they compromise by having a longer travel time, but providing higher frequency of service to both cities. Obviously they can't carry pax JNB-DUR, but that's beside the point. There are still a few; the PR & ET flights mentioned above are examples. As I mentioned, the only flight with a PURELY technical stop is BA1. Even then, pax get to go through pre-clearance in SNN. |
Originally Posted by RandomNobody
(Post 26400693)
PAl113 makes occasional tech stops in Guam traveling west between LAX and MNL
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Originally Posted by Palal
(Post 26400745)
As I mentioned, the only flight with a PURELY technical stop is BA1. Even then, pax get to go through pre-clearance in SNN. PR's GUM stops are purely technical. They stop there solely for the purpose of adding fuel. |
Originally Posted by Palal
(Post 26400747)
Is it a scheduled stop or does it depend on the weather?
Yes, it's purely weather/loading related. All they do at GUM is add fuel. |
Originally Posted by Palal
(Post 26400745)
The ET flight mentioned above is another one of these triangle fights, with both IAD-ADD and DUB-ADD on sale.
Ditto with IAD - ADD at least when it was launched and using a 788 (which I don't believe has the range for IAD - JNB though these days they are using a 77L which might have the range depending on conditions since both ADD and JNB are hot and high). |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 26389928)
PR LAX/SFO/YVR-MNL (fuel stop in GUM)
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Is BA 777's SYD-(SIN)-LHR a technical stop in SIN, or something you can book onto/off of at that point?
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Originally Posted by TheTakeOffRush
(Post 26402659)
Is BA 777's SYD-(SIN)-LHR a technical stop in SIN, or something you can book onto/off of at that point?
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Back in the '70s SAS flew CPH-BKK over Sovjet Territory with a DC-8, going down in Tashkent for refueling.
Everybody deboarded and was given a shot of vodka at the door to the terminal where you could buy Stolichnaya for $1/litre. After 45 mins back to the plane. |
Originally Posted by artof
(Post 26403773)
Back in the '70s SAS flew CPH-BKK over Sovjet Territory with a DC-8, going down in Tashkent for refueling.
Everybody deboarded and was given a shot of vodka at the door to the terminal where you could buy Stolichnaya for $1/litre. After 45 mins back to the plane. *disembark? |
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