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I once encountered this issue in reverse; I was going to the US to train support staff because the company I worked for had been purchased by a US company and was moving a lot of operations to their existing offices.
Nobody told me what to say when I flew down so I told the truth, that I was going down to train some people. When asked why a Canadian was doing the training and not an American I explained that I was training the people who were taking over my job and that after this I was going to be out of work...after a brief pause, the response was, "Bummer," and I was allowed to continue. I called my manager after I checked into my hotel and told him what had happened; he told me I should have lied but I have a terrible poker face so I'm sure that would not have gone well. |
Originally Posted by KoKoBuddy
(Post 26270274)
Canada is weird like that. Not sure where the paranoia comes from, but I think they're all convinced every American has a secret wish to move there and steal someone's job earning $0.70 on the dollar with the crappy exchange rate :p
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Originally Posted by Sopwith
(Post 26275632)
I don't think it's necessarily Canada that's weird. If you want to see paranoia, try being a Canadian (or any other foreign national, for that matter) crossing into the US for business. What you describe is exactly what I get from the CBP, except for the $0.70 part.
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
(Post 26275740)
I do so all the time. Almost monthly. I'm not sure what you're getting at - I really am not.
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Originally Posted by chrisl137
(Post 26274997)
I always have had the impression that it's more that they want to know if they can tax you. My general experience going back and forth is that Canada wants to know if you're carrying anything designed to hurt someone (mace, a gun) or something they can tax (alcohol, cigarettes, expensive gifts) and the post-9/11 US thinks you're coming in either to destroy the place or import drugs and would rather you just stay out, even if you're a US citizen.
When my partner was living in Canada, I would go a few times a year (she came to LA much more often for obvious reasons). I never was asked about work, though I had a work permit that I never used for the first few years she was there. I got it at the same time she got hers- amusingly, hers was tied to the job offer and was restricted, while mine was an unrestricted "job hunting license". I did once get asked about work by US CBP, but never by Canadian. |
Back when I did consult I learned after my first trip to Canada never to use the words consult/consulting/consultant. They are worried that you are taking a job away from a local, which is often true when outside consultants are hired. Training could also fall into the same trap.
Also be very careful with training and any other materials you might be carrying. Before my consulting days I was in manufacturing. We were looking for a paint supplier and I found one in Canada. I grabbed some scrap parts to talk over for a test run. No money was changing hands, but when I said I had parts they wanted paperwork which I didn't have. I spent about 20 minutes at secondary before they let me go, but told me to be sure I had paperwork. Many times after that I would see the agent look at their computer screen then ask me point blank if I had any parts with me, so it was noted. This was before 9/11 and passport requirements, so I think it was based on my license plate number. When I got a new plate, the question seemed to stop. Back to consulting, when my boss wanted me to do training near Toronto, I insisted they ship the binders and other materials ahead. I knew they were clueless about doing the right paperwork, so better to let FedEx handle it. Not working can be an even bigger headache. During one of my unemployment phases I decided to head over to the casino. I truthfully said I was going to the casino, but a 30 something hitting the casino on a Tuesday morning must have seemed strange. Asked where I worked, so I said I was unemployed. Spent the next 30 minutes at secondary with a very detailed, yet polite, interview about my finances, bank accounts, mortgage, ... |
Originally Posted by tev9999
(Post 26283181)
Back when I did consult I learned after my first trip to Canada never to use the words consult/consulting/consultant. They are worried that you are taking a job away from a local, which is often true when outside consultants are hired. Training could also fall into the same trap.
Also be very careful with training and any other materials you might be carrying. Before my consulting days I was in manufacturing. We were looking for a paint supplier and I found one in Canada. I grabbed some scrap parts to talk over for a test run. No money was changing hands, but when I said I had parts they wanted paperwork which I didn't have. I spent about 20 minutes at secondary before they let me go, but told me to be sure I had paperwork. Many times after that I would see the agent look at their computer screen then ask me point blank if I had any parts with me, so it was noted. This was before 9/11 and passport requirements, so I think it was based on my license plate number. When I got a new plate, the question seemed to stop. Back to consulting, when my boss wanted me to do training near Toronto, I insisted they ship the binders and other materials ahead. I knew they were clueless about doing the right paperwork, so better to let FedEx handle it. Not working can be an even bigger headache. During one of my unemployment phases I decided to head over to the casino. I truthfully said I was going to the casino, but a 30 something hitting the casino on a Tuesday morning must have seemed strange. Asked where I worked, so I said I was unemployed. Spent the next 30 minutes at secondary with a very detailed, yet polite, interview about my finances, bank accounts, mortgage, ... |
Originally Posted by emma69
(Post 26277594)
I've frequently brought things into Canada (as a non Canadian) that they could tax me on, and declared them (e.g. alcohol over personal exemption) and they have never asked me to pay up (even thought I am perfectly prepared to do so, not trying to get away with something). So not sure that is their reason.
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Originally Posted by mapleg
(Post 26302834)
That is a customs and duty issue. The employment issue is really an immigration issue, not just a tax collection pit stop.
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