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We're explicitly allowed to keep IDB and VDB comp. Our written policy even allows volunteering for bumps so long as it won't impact business, but given how fast and loose we play with meetings, my guess is some people have stretched that rule.
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Originally Posted by Beven12S
(Post 25913073)
I haven't read all of the more recent posts but, if I get the drift of the "fireable" offense tangent to the OP's initial question, it is too bad that some posters' moral compasses seem to be pegged to whether they could get fired for something, not whether it is right or wrong.
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Originally Posted by Annalisa12
(Post 25920050)
As an employer, I would get rid of someone if I found out they kept any refund of money I paid.
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 25920468)
Refund of ticket maybe. You'd have a pretty difficult time firing someone for compensation directly for the benefit of the traveller.
I would expect them to tell me what happened financially if I was footing the bill. What I then did would depend on the situation. |
Originally Posted by Annalisa12
(Post 25922406)
If I paid $6000 for someone to go business class and found out that they had gone economy for $2000 - whether by their own choice or the airline downgrading them - and they kept the $4000 they would be gone. I consider that dishonest. I would then wonder what else dishonest they might do to the detriment of my business.
I would expect them to tell me what happened financially if I was footing the bill. What I then did would depend on the situation. A transaction like that could also cause problems if a small business is audited, since the business presumably would write off the full $6,000 as an expense, not knowing the airline only ended up receiving $2,000. |
Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 25922437)
Agree 100 percent.
A transaction like that could also cause problems if a small business is audited, since the business presumably would write off the full $6,000 as an expense, not knowing the airline only ended up receiving $2,000. Your boss wrote it off. Should he have? Did you report it on your income taxes if you pocketed it? I suspect none of us do. If it happens, tell your boss and ask him how to refund the money to the company. More often than not he'll tell you not to worry about it. Either way, you are covered and you have a reputation for honesty which is not a bad thing to have. |
Originally Posted by Annalisa12
(Post 25922406)
If I paid $6000 for someone to go business class...
I'd say firing alone is not enough in such an instant. |
Originally Posted by Annalisa12
(Post 25922406)
If I paid $6000 for someone to go business class and found out that they had gone economy for $2000 - whether by their own choice or the airline downgrading them - and they kept the $4000 they would be gone. I consider that dishonest. I would then wonder what else dishonest they might do to the detriment of my business.
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Originally Posted by krlcomm
(Post 25923225)
I wouldn't wonder about what else they might have done for one second, they would be terminated immediately if they worked for me. I have zero tolerance for fraudsters and crooks. Zero.
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Originally Posted by Annalisa12
(Post 25922406)
If I paid $6000 for someone to go business class and found out that they had gone economy for $2000 - whether by their own choice or the airline downgrading them - and they kept the $4000 they would be gone. I consider that dishonest. I would then wonder what else dishonest they might do to the detriment of my business.
I would expect them to tell me what happened financially if I was footing the bill. What I then did would depend on the situation. |
Originally Posted by roberino
(Post 25900911)
Last Thursday night was the company Christmas party, and while everyone was the wrong side of an evening's drinking I started asking the other travelling staff if they've ever had a refund or compensation and not told the bosses. Five out of out five said yes! I make six. They were:
- EU261 (x3) - Several VDB's. - Compensation for a rental car in bad condition. - Fare difference for being downgraded from PE to Y. - Money back from a hotel because they had to move rooms 3 times in one night. - Original flight routing was cancelled, but instead of accepting a rerouting the person accepted full refund and rebooked for GBP200 less on the new route, pocketing the difference. (I think this one is over the line, personally). So, it seems to be pretty common. Without exception none of us told our bosses, but weirdly none of us thought our bosses would actually mind and that telling them would put them in an awkward spot that was ours to be in. |
The real question, who's money was it in the first place....
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In my opinion, it comes down to whether the "refund" is compensation for an inconvenience (e.g. IDB, VDB, etc… fine to keep) or a refund for services not rendered (e.g. cancelling IAH-AUS and deciding to drive instead, not fine to keep).
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Originally Posted by deniah
(Post 25919930)
the entity that i work for has more worthwhile concerns than tracking VDB compensation.
the perks furnished by the airlines are meant to recompense the traveler's inconvenience. (should the traveler submit to his/her employer a food voucher from a short delay? or a full can of coke given onboard?).... not as a reward, or a substantial alternative source of income. in case of OP's question, for a forced downgrade, there was no *intent* to personally profit from the trip, so no breech of policy. BTW, my employer claims IDB and VDB payments too, with the idea that VDBs can be handled by using the credit toward another ticket that will be reimbursed. |
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