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Originally Posted by Ben and Jerry
(Post 23823300)
Very simple. if I pay for the privilege of sitting in E+ (either by spending $$ directly, or by spending lots of $$ to get status and thus free E+), it's gonna annoy the hell out of me if someone comes up and just takes it without paying for it.
If you don't like the concept of E+ and E-: go fly southwest. Let's take it one step further...does everyone here agree that putting your stuff into a vacant middle seat when you're in the window seat is theft? Because by most of the logic displayed here, yep, that's theft too. To me, the people in E+ who would be mad about this are playing their DYKWIA card more than anything. |
Nope, didn't miss a thing. Someone takes something that is more desirable, has a price tag because of that, and someone wants that thing without paying for it. Not cool.
Now if the airline decides to give me back the money I paid for the privilege, I would be totally cool with it. |
and to go one up: what if there's an empty row in BE? Is it ok to just take that seat too then? Or is that really a magic curtain between Y an J?
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Oh boy the can of worms.
If you take anything from this post OP. Some of us don't think you did anything to warrant being called a thief. And some of us thinks you should be ashamed of yourself. |
Originally Posted by Ben and Jerry
(Post 23823324)
Nope, didn't miss a thing. Someone takes something that is more desirable, has a price tag because of that, and someone wants that thing without paying for it. Not cool.
Now if the airline decides to give me back the money I paid for the privilege, I would be totally cool with it. Because I don't think you'd willfully sit in the middle seat if the window was open. Etc etc. You can get so pedantic about this, that it just isn't worth giving a second thought to. |
Originally Posted by Glamette
(Post 23822837)
I understand your point of view, I just don't agree with it. Calling it stealing implies that the airline had a direct loss because of it. The flight commenced they weren't going to make money on that seat. I guess this is one of these grey areas that people aren't going to see eye to eye on.
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Originally Posted by mikekelley
(Post 23823352)
What about the seat selection process, then? Many airlines charge extra for seats, even in economy, such as BA. If you paid less for a middle seat, then luckily the window or exit row was open, and you shuffled over, this is the same for you? Right now on LAX-LHR I'm given the option of paying $30 or somesuch to buy an exit row, and $60 to get a window, and even more for an exit row. Would you get upset if someone didn't pay for choosing a seat, then decided to move to the window in a mostly-empty row?
Because I don't think you'd willfully sit in the middle seat if the window was open. Etc etc. You can get so pedantic about this, that it just isn't worth giving a second thought to. The problem is that the cocky/arrogant/entitled will rule the plane. Just because you are arrogant enough to claim something that is not yours, does not make it acceptable. Now of course you could ask the FA, and definitely in the case of a window for a middle on your own row, there will probably be no objection. |
Originally Posted by Glamette
(Post 23823290)
It is something that I have never done, I just think calling someone a thief for switching seats is quite harsh and a little silly.
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my god, what a bunch of puritans. OP did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Originally Posted by Alpha
(Post 23823500)
my god, what a bunch of puritans. OP did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Originally Posted by Alpha
(Post 23823500)
my god, what a bunch of puritans. OP did absolutely nothing wrong.
"Absolutely nothing wrong" with that? Is that what you're saying? |
No I haven't and if I had paid for something I would be annoyed that someone helped themselves to something they were not entitled to.
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Originally Posted by Glamette
(Post 23823524)
What are you doing?!? Quick retreat before they call you arrogant and entitled. Learn from my mistakes my dear, nothing works.
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Originally Posted by Ben and Jerry
(Post 23823551)
Don't forget anarchist, the rules dont apply to you obviously.
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Originally Posted by Tchiowa
(Post 23822976)
It's more than just a point of view. Had the airline caught him and decided to pursue it, he could have been charged with a crime. That's not a gray area.
Those of you who consider switching to E+ to be theft, please answer this question. If I am in a middle seat and the aisle seat next to me is open, can I switch into it? Or is that theft of service as well? (Assume that the airline charges more for aisle seats, which many do these days.) |
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