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sriegert Jun 7, 2014 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by herzmeh (Post 22994640)

Well.... what's wrong with steps 1 and 2? I've flown paid domestic first with my kid a few times and I'm sorry to break it, he's a paying customer just like everyone else.

LOL. so kids on award tix should be treated differently?

cbn42 Jun 7, 2014 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by dordal (Post 22992472)
Step 1: Bring your screaming, tired child into the lounge.

Tired children usually don't scream.

Pickles Jun 7, 2014 10:27 pm


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 22995966)
Tired children usually don't scream.

Actually, they do. I don't get the little feckers. If you're so damn tired, why don't you go to sleep?

USA_flyer Jun 8, 2014 1:39 am


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 22995978)
Actually, they do. I don't get the little feckers. If you're so damn tired, why don't you go to sleep?

Yep. Mine goes nuts when she's over tired. Whines a lot. Cries some. Then crashes.

nrr Jun 9, 2014 12:57 am

I fly AA. Their lounges are called Admirals Clubs. At https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...Pass_terms.jsp they list the rules for a "day pass"--I would assume these extend to people who have purchased annual memberships. One of the rules listed states:
American Airlines expressly reserves the right in its absolute discretion to discontinue the day pass program at any time or to refuse to sell a day pass to any specific customer and, if sold, to cancel a day pass, and deny any purchaser or visitor access to, or use of, any lounge. American Airlines will not be liable for any loss or damage suffered by a purchaser or visitor resulting from such refusal, cancellation, or denial.

thelark Jun 9, 2014 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by rbwpi (Post 22994997)
Yes, there is. You can show consideration for others by removing your child from the lounge, until s/he quiets down.

and then queue the thread where someone complains that the kid was brought into the terminal where it was disrupting countless more people than in the small confined lounge.

mikeef Jun 9, 2014 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 22996311)
Yep. Mine goes nuts when she's over tired. Whines a lot. Cries some. Then crashes.

This. We always know it's going to be hardest to get our kids to go to bed (as opposed to actually going to sleep) when they are overtired. Once they've been down for a couple of minutes, though, they're gone.

Mike

rjque Jun 9, 2014 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 22995009)
But but but...I've PAID! My darling little Reign-Beau Jesse can do whatever he wants, we can't stifle his creativity by setting boundaries now, can we. It takes a village...

I think I get it. You don't like kids with weird names. Or Hillary Clinton, apparently.


Originally Posted by herzmeh
Well.... what's wrong with steps 1 and 2? I've flown paid domestic first with my kid a few times and I'm sorry to break it, he's a paying customer just like everyone else.

As for step 3, I'm sorry, but at times there isn't much you can do. Did (s)he actually try to calm down the kid?

There is plenty you can do about step 3 - take your kid out of the lounge. I've done it myself plenty of times.

rbwpi Jun 9, 2014 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 23003896)
... someone complains that the kid was brought into the terminal where it was disrupting countless more people than in the small confined lounge.

Let them complain, as passengers in the terminal have no reasonable expectation of a quiet, restful environment. Whereas passengers in a first class lounge do. That's one way the lounges differentiate from the terminal.

The parent of the disruptive child has options other than the terminal. Several times in restaurants I have seen considerate parents take a disruptive child into a rest room until they quieted down. In one instance, the child returned to the table and remained silent while finishing his meal standing up. Apparently it was uncomfortable for him to sit down.

beachmouse Jun 9, 2014 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 23003896)
and then queue the thread where someone complains that the kid was brought into the terminal where it was disrupting countless more people than in the small confined lounge.

If an airport is big enough to have a lounge area, it's probably big enough to have a designed kinderzoo play area where kids are encouraged to work out the loudness and bad behavior before getting on the plane. Or alternately, a 2-3 gate area unused until the 4:55 from JFK arrives where little Snotleigh can calm the heck down with minimal disruption to other passengers.

rjque Jun 9, 2014 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by beachmouse (Post 23005243)
If an airport is big enough to have a lounge area, it's probably big enough to have a designed kinderzoo play area where kids are encouraged to work out the loudness and bad behavior before getting on the plane. Or alternately, a 2-3 gate area unused until the 4:55 from JFK arrives where little Snotleigh can calm the heck down with minimal disruption to other passengers.

Neither of those are really the case. Smaller airports without lounges tend to be better for entertaining small children in deserted gate areas. And airports with lounges do not always have kid play areas.

Even so, lounges are not an appropriate place for crying or noisy kids. Please take your kids outside if they start to act up.

That said, I've rarely encountered noisy kids in airline lounges. Far more frequently, I encounter noisy adults on their mobile phones, often in the "cell phone free" areas.

ou81two Jun 9, 2014 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by dordal (Post 22992472)
Just follow this easy guide!

Step 1: Bring your screaming, tired child into the lounge.
Step 2: Sit right in the middle of the room.
Step 3: Ignore your screaming, tired child for AN HOUR.

Sorry, just had to vent. :-)

I know traveling with kids is hard, but still...

Yes, I'm sure the person who did this reads this forum.

BadgerBoi Jun 9, 2014 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by rjque (Post 23004807)
I think I get it. You don't like kids with weird names. Or Hillary Clinton, apparently.

Wrong on both counts - I dislike parents who give their little snowflakes "special" names and expect others to treat them like royalty.

And I love Hillary Clinton, she drove past my house once when she was visiting here, she waved at me and my heart melted.

Annalisa12 Jun 10, 2014 12:18 am


Originally Posted by rbwpi (Post 22994997)
Yes, there is. You can show consideration for others by removing your child from the lounge, until s/he quiets down.

I fully agree with you. Yes a screaming kid is annoying but I'll put up with it if a parent is TRYING. If there is a big empty space or room, take your kid there until they stop screaming.

mikeef Jun 10, 2014 7:00 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 22996311)
There is plenty you can do about step 3 - take your kid out of the lounge. I've done it myself plenty of times.

+1

Despite five years of shaky parenting, our kids have actually turned out okay so far. And we have the good fortune of a home base airport with a kid-zone in the AA lounge, as well as a play area in both the Delta and JetBlue zones. Having said that, we have removed the kids from a lounge when necessary.

But I fail to understand why businessmen (and it's almost always men) screaming into their cell phones don't receive the same kind of scrutiny here that the little people do. The former is certainly a far more frequent occurrence.

Mike


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