Rant on deplaning
 

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to rant about this. I'm new to the form. Although I just hit status yesterday [I'll have to find the thread about that]

Does it annoy anyone else when getting off the plane that theres already a line of people ready to leave and then people jump up from their seat to jump in and grab their bag. I realize that people want to get up and go, but emptying the line first makes it quicker. Also, its incredibly rare [in my experience] that anyone that jumps up would just have their carry on already retrieved or just had the one from under their seat.

Cant understand the point you are trying to make.

And sometimes the person from 5 rows back "jumps up" right away and blocks you from even standing up. It takes 3-4 seconds to grab your bag out of the over head, sometimes maybe 10.

What really annoys me, are those who push you out of the way saying that they have a plane to catch at a major hub. Really? Like half the plane doesn't either.

I don't get your point either.

I think the point is that if you stand up in the aisle right after the seatbelt light goes off you should exit the plane before those are sitting. If you are sitting you need to wait (needlessly, IMHO) for the entire aisle to clear before you dare stand up lest you make a DYKWIA wait 10-15 seconds.

Actually this doesn't annoy me at all and is the way I expect things to work. I generally expect the people seated in rows in front of mine to deplane before I do and I expect to get off before those seated behind me. So I wait for those in front of me to pull down their bag and then I take my turn to get off. There are exceptions to this but absent a good reason I expect to deplane this way.

I find it annoying when I want to get my bag down and people from behind my row push forward in the aisle trying to get off quickly, thereby blocking people's ability to get to their bags.

I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

On my last flight I started to enter the aisle to take my turn to get off when a guy from a row behind me tried to zoom past. I gave him the stink eye and he backed off. :)

The common standard for planes, trains, bus, it it empties from front to back. If you are standing behind row 5, you would wait for everybody in the first five rows to get up and get off before you get off.

Not saying that's right or wrong, it's just how it is.

If you want to be the first person off the plane, then sit up front, otherwise you will have to wait because there's far more people who will let everybody else out first than who won't.

i almost always have an aisle seat(old man with bladder problems). when the line finally starts to move, i jump up, and allow the three on the left, and the two on the right to get in front of me while all those who got great aisle position stand behind me and suck wind. it is actually faster, because bags can be pulled by others and are ready.

On a flight a couple of months ago from LGA-ORD, after we landed, everyone got up as usual to get their bags from the overhead bins and file off the plane.

As I was standing in the aisle to reach my bag, a rather large, 60-ish Midwestern woman sitting a couple of rows behind barreled right through the aisle next to me, saying "Excuse me! Excuse me!" rather aggressively as she did so.

I was annoyed, but whatever. I went back to trying to get my laptop bag out from the overhead. Then another 60-ish, large Midwestern woman did the exact same thing, literally pushing me out of her way and almost leading me to drop the laptop bag. She was a friend of the first woman.

I was sort of stunned, and a couple of guys who were waiting behind me just looked at me with compassion and said they couldn't believe what just happened either. It was pretty shocking behavior.

When I got off the plane, the two women were just standing like sheep right in the gate area, in no apparent hurry to go anywhere. As I passed by, I said - in a calm, non-aggressive voice - that the courteous thing to do is to deplane by rows rather than pushing other passengers out of your way as you storm down the aisle.

The second woman just glowered at me and yelled, "Oh - shut the hell up!"

Welcome to Chicago, I guess.:rolleyes:

Ironically (noting your location), many would expect the same behavior from always-in-a-hurry New Yorkers. (And what you DON'T realize from MY location is that I am a native NYC'er myself :cool: so please read this with the proper sense of self-deprecating humor. :D )

Now in all seriousness, I have no tolerance for aisle-barrelers either, and so they either get blocked off by all 6'3" 250+ of me much in the same fashion of slawecki above, or if they're fast enough to get past me, they get a LOUD New Yorker commentary as they barrel by.

My comment was pretty much lets say you're at the gate, the seatbelt sign is off etc, but they aren't letting you off the plane yet. This happened to me at ROC last night on a turbo prop. I have my two bags, and I stand in the line that is the asle. What I'm referring to is the people that didn't wait in the line, and then try to jump in when you're trying to move forward.

Most people who do this have a bag in the overhead. At best I would say they could get up, get the bag out in 30 seconds. Often its takes more because the bag is heavy, their too short, the bag is huge, or the bin is small at the opening.

What I'm suggesting, let the people who brought just one carry on and stuffed it under the seat go quickly, let the people who didn't carry anything go, let the people that are already standing and in line to go empty the plane. Theres no need for rushing to tear your bag out of the baggage.

/end of rant

EDIT: If there is a line, wait, if there is a gap of at least 4 rows go ahead and get your things.
Second Ninja Edit: Carry on bags have gotten a lot bigger. If i'm waiting in line in the aisle I'll help those around me get their bags. I might even help my row get their bags. Even if you have a tight connection its not always possible to get a seat close to the front.

NO it does not annoy me, and I really don't understand your angst. To me it is common courtesy and etiquette to deplane by row. I have never once thought I should barrel past people. If there is no order, everyone would just stand up and it would resemble a bunch of sheep trying to leave the pen.

Trains, from my experience its not that bad. Amtrak: there isn't a massive rush to get off, and not everyone gets off at he same time. DeutscheBahn: People get their stuff and stand near the door to get off before it comes to a stop. Buses people generally bring one carry on. A bookbag or a small duffle. [Not a carryon that barely fits in the carry on limits]

And there's no need for you to go barreling by people in order to get off before them.

There could very easily never be a gap in the line. Then the person who you think shouldn't be able to get up and retrieve their bags has to wait till everyone else has deplaned before they can move. Sorry, doesn't make sense.

As others have stated, it's common courtesy to deplane by rows. If you don't like it, make sure you have a seat up front. If you ever tried to get me to stop retrieving my bags so you could go first, I would look at you like you were crazy and then carry on with my business. We're all just trying to get off the plane and you're no more important than the rest of us.

If they were there getting their bags out or already was in the aisle by the time I got there no worries. But if you're moving with the line and then someone just jumps out in front of you... come on.

Agree with Westcoaster. There is not room in the aisle for all of us to stand in line at the same time. I usually wait in my seat until it is my turn, I do expect to exit at that time and not wait until everyone who is in line to exit. I move as quickly as possibly and have my hand baggage ready as well.

I think the misconception here is that there's a line. There is no line. There's just a bunch of people who stood up at their row and are now waiting to get off. An aisle seat three rows behind me doesn't mean you're "in line" ahead of me.

joe

Me too.. In fact I thought the OP was joking at first!

Really... someone in row X who leaps up as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off (or, let's face it.. before that) is entitled to get off before everyone in rows 1>X?

You must be kidding....:rolleyes:

I'll turn it around and ask:

"Does it annoy anyone else that people jump up into the aisle as soon as (or before) the seat belt sign is turned off, and then expect to push past everyone else?"

YES, it does!

There's always a line. In order to get up and get out you have to "jump in front" of someone.

Just because people are moving along the aisle doesn't mean you aren't allowed to jump up, get your stuff, and start walking. If you aren't giving people the space to do that then you're doing it wrong.

This.

Out of curiosity, how do you know these women were Midwestern?? :confused:

+1000. I hate when I am in a window seat in F and cannot get out into the aisle due to the mad rush of other F and Y pax in rows behind me.

If in the aisle, I generally hold up the flow from behind until those in my row are out.

Exceptions are those who will obviously need extra time. If I know their bag is five rows back, there is no point....

I think orderly deplaning allowing the rows ahead to exit is appropriate. The way I imagine what I think the OP describes - I could see all the aisle folks deplaning and the remainder of the plane trapped and then getting "cutoff" as the back of the plane starts to fill that line up.... basically a mess.

I prefer just letting the plane deplane by rows. I often sit toward the back, and it really is not that much of a wait. 9/10 times the baggage isnt even on the carousel by the time I get there (with a bathroom break on the way.) Nothing more annoying than being told of urgent connections then I see the guy standing in the Tim Hortons line....

+1

It is called politeness, plus it is the way things should be done (ie deplaning by row). Pretty gauche to assume otherwise.

Their accent was clearly northern Illinois. If I had to guess, I'd say they were from the west/northwest suburbs of Chicago. I'm from the area, and I know what people there sound like.

now, to hijack the thread a little bit...
 

You know, I just thought of something - I hate the word "deplane." It's not a real word. You don't debus or detrain. You get off the bus. You get off the train. You should get off the plane. Or, to make things even easier - alight. Exit. Leave.

The only time I've ever heard the word "deplane" used is by a FA in their spiel (and of course on FT, which doesn't count because people here are clearly weird :D)

Does anyone else agree with me here?

I believe the word "deplane" was coined by Herve Villechaize (Tattoo) on Fantasy Island, c. 1978. :D

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:D:D:D

Yeah it is. It's in all the major dictionaries

Debus is also a word, but not in common usage.

Detrain is also a real word.

Actually, people seated in front of you shouldn't be "jumping out in front of you" because you should be letting them go in front of you. If they decline, fine, but you should give them the right-of-way. It is common deplaning courtesy.

Ha! Good one :)

What lsumegan said. ^^

When attempting to deplane, and after sitting still for a number of hours, I usually break wind. In this way, those who are behaving badly are subjected to the full wrath of my bowels. Everyone else is collateral damage.

Sit quietly for 30 seconds. Don't do anything other than watch the clock. It's a surprisingly long time.

If your time estimate were correct:
* Your average 757 has a 26-row 3-3 economy configuration.
* Your description assumes that the two people in the aisle seats are standing in the aisle & everyone else (4 people per row x 26 rows) should get off the plane after the first 52 people (26 x 2).
* Each of those 4 people per row take 30 seconds to get their bags, or 2 minutes per row.
* Multiply that by 26 rows, and by your estimates it takes 52 minutes to clear out the economy passengers who aren't in aisle seats.

Uh-huh.

+1! What is the OP trying to say? Everyone should stop everything and wait for him to deplane???!!! Nothing is more annoying than people from the back rushing forward.

I have to say that I disagree with the OP and agree with most of the other people. Generally speaking the front of the plane gets off before the back.

Assuming that the plane is all one class (y) and I'm in seat 1A, the OP seems to be saying that, just because the people in the isle seats can get up first that I have to wait for ALL of them to deplane before I do? Seriously, there's no way that 1A should have to wait for the guy in say 45C to get off before they can grab their bag and go.

I'd say front before back, unless you're elderly, invalid, have very large/awkward bags or other reasons where you would significantly hold up those behind you, in which case they should wait for a significant gap in the line. Even that, though, would just be a courtesy.

When I was deploying to the gulf in 1990 I embussed for a short ride, then debussed and emplaned for a short flight.. then deplaned and embarked on my ship... didn't disembark for QUITE a while....

All real words... if not in common usage!:D

Very possibly the most inane thread ever created on FT...

Oh no, there are tonnes worse than this :D

But I agree with the majority view here. Because the people sat in the middle and the window have no opportunity to move until the person in the aisle leaves, you have to give them an opportunity to get out too, rather than just (rather rudely IMHO) assuming that because you have managed to fight into the aisle, you get to keep them pinned in their seat.

I think there's a general understanding that, all else being equal, people get of an aeroplane from front to back. Therefore, it's fairly normal for people standing up to let people who happen to have been sitting in front of them but not already in the aisle get up and get their bags and continue down the aisle.

Not everyone wants to stand up for five minutes or more in the aisle after the plane has arrived at the gate (and some people are more or less prevented from doing so, either by age or infirmity, or because they can't get out of their seat because of other people being in the way, or whatever).

I, on the other hand, normally do aim to get out of my seat as soon as possible after arrival at the gate, simply to stretch my legs and avoid claustrophobia. But that's a personal choice. I don't think that this means that people sitting in front of me who don't do this should have to wait for me to go past them before they join the general exodus.

Aeroplanes are not overly blessed with space, generally, so everyone has to make some concessions to other passengers.