Is a 747 That Much Faster With Headwinds Then a 767-400?
I will soon be traveling from Frankfurt to Houston so I was checking the flight times today.
The LH440 made the trip in 10hrs 49 minutes The CO 47 (767-4) schedule to make the trip in 11hrs 36 minutes. They both departed at a reasonable time from their scheduled departure. All of the above is per FlightAware. Could the 747 be that much faster in headwinds then a two engine 767-4? |
Boeing 767 has slower airspeed than Boeing 747
Originally Posted by jyh
(Post 17670341)
I will soon be traveling from Frankfurt to Houston so I was checking the flight times today.
The LH440 made the trip in 10hrs 49 minutes The CO 47 (767-4) schedule to make the trip in 11hrs 36 minutes. They both departed at a reasonable time from their scheduled departure. All of the above is per FlightAware. Could the 747 be that much faster in headwinds then a two engine 767-4? |
Difference is big. The 744 cruises at M.85; the 767 cruises at M.80. :eek:
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Originally Posted by Wiirachay
(Post 17671180)
Difference is big. The 744 cruises at M.85; the 767 cruises at M.80. :eek:
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Originally Posted by Yaatri
(Post 17670604)
Boeing 767 has slower airspeed than Boenig 747 period. Head winds just makes the times diverge more. A 767 will be slower than a 747 in tailwinds too.
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Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 17677967)
Is it headwinds, specifically, or just that the absolute divergence, in general, is longer the longer the trip length?
Time of travel depends on speed and distance. Longer distance means longer time as does slower speed. Head winds have the effect of reducing speed with respect to ground. |
At M.85 and M.8, a trip that takes 10:00/10:38 hrs means the planes are 0:38 or 6.3% apart.
With a M.2 headwind, really big but not unheard of, the flights could take 13:05/14:10 hrs and are 1:05 and 8.3% apart. Real differences are smaller but that's the idea. (All theoretical, of course) |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 17678324)
At M.85 and M.8, a trip that takes 10:00/10:38 hrs means the planes are 0:38 or .25% apart.
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Originally Posted by Yaatri
(Post 17678175)
Both.
Time of travel depends on speed and distance. Longer distance means longer time as does slower speed. Head winds have the effect of reducing speed with respect to ground. Sorry - I meant longer trip, in time, regardless of whether distance or headwinds were the factor. You'd singled out headwinds, when it is both, hence my question. |
Originally Posted by Wiirachay
(Post 17671180)
Difference is big. The 744 cruises at M.85; the 767 cruises at M.80. :eek:
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Originally Posted by ahar
(Post 17678632)
10h38m is about 6.3% longer than 10h
Corrected. |
Originally Posted by nerd
(Post 17678692)
Yes of course, obviously.
Sorry - I meant longer trip, in time, regardless of whether distance or headwinds were the factor. You'd singled out headwinds, when it is both, hence my question. |
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