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LAX Sep 27, 2011 1:49 am
Boeing & its launch customers
 
With Boeing's delivery of its first B787 (finally) to NH earlier this week, it got me wondering who were the launch customers for Boeing's other aircrafts. Does anyone know?

LAX

PS: Not sure sure which forum this question belongs, so mods please feel free to move to where appropriate.

beckoa Sep 27, 2011 2:08 am
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IIRC AS was launch for 739 (original version) but was unsatisfied with performance.

Yoshi212 Sep 27, 2011 2:10 am
B707- PanAm
B717-AirTran
B727-Eastern Airlines
B737-Lufthansa
B747-PanAm
B757-Eastern Airlines
B767-United Airlines
B777-United Airlines

All per Wiki postings
Not sure about the individual series within the main body style.

BearX220 Sep 27, 2011 8:57 am
Originally Posted by armattheus (Post 17179663)
Not sure about the individual series within the main body style.
Northwest was the first B744 operator.

LAX Sep 28, 2011 1:24 am
Originally Posted by armattheus (Post 17179663)
B707- PanAm
B717-AirTran
B727-Eastern Airlines
B737-Lufthansa
B747-PanAm
B757-Eastern Airlines
B767-United Airlines
B777-United Airlines

All per Wiki postings
Not sure about the individual series within the main body style.
Thanks. With the exception of LH and now NH, only US-based carriers have been launch customers for Boeing's planes.

LAX

chornedsnorkack Sep 28, 2011 1:34 am
Originally Posted by BearX220 (Post 17180896)
Northwest was the first B744 operator.
747-200 - KLM
747SP - Pan Am
747-300 - Swissair

brendog Sep 28, 2011 7:08 am
731 LH
732 UA
733 US and WN
734 PI (Now US)
735 WN
736 SK
73G WN
73G-ER NH
738 HF (Now X3)
739 AS
739-ER JT

fjord Sep 28, 2011 10:49 am
747-8I Lufthansa
747-8F Cargolux (was supposed to be delivered last monday but delivery was refused, Nippon Cargo could be the launch customer since they are the 2nd shceduled delivery customer.)

chornedsnorkack Sep 28, 2011 11:44 am
757-300 - Condor

N830MH Sep 29, 2011 10:15 pm
Originally Posted by fjord (Post 17187445)
747-8I Lufthansa
747-8F Cargolux (was supposed to be delivered last monday but delivery was refused, Nippon Cargo could be the launch customer since they are the 2nd shceduled delivery customer.)
Right. Who will be next new launch customer 737MAX? Is that AA?

tycosiao Sep 30, 2011 12:21 pm
Honestly, what are the benefits of being the launch customer?

The plane you are getting is the guinea pig for the rest of planes that follows.

You celebrate the delivery, spending money on hype which is shared by other users of that plane model.

but

I know how it feels when you get to use something first and exclusive for a limited time.

gglave Sep 30, 2011 1:52 pm
Originally Posted by tycosiao (Post 17199552)
Honestly, what are the benefits of being the launch customer?
IIRC from reading "21st Century Jet" (about creating the 777) the launch customer has the advantage of being able to help design some of the elements of the aircraft. They're also able to negotiate a good price for the aircraft, as customer #1.

N830MH Sep 30, 2011 4:55 pm
Originally Posted by gglave (Post 17200048)
IIRC from reading "21st Century Jet" (about creating the 777) the launch customer has the advantage of being able to help design some of the elements of the aircraft. They're also able to negotiate a good price for the aircraft, as customer #1.
Hmm. I think Boeing is working on it to getting brand new 777-8/9X. I am not sure who will be launch customer of brand new 787-10, 777-8/9X. Could EK is interesting to gets new 777-8/9X or etc.

PresRDC Sep 30, 2011 10:54 pm
Originally Posted by gglave (Post 17200048)
IIRC from reading "21st Century Jet" (about creating the 777) the launch customer has the advantage of being able to help design some of the elements of the aircraft. They're also able to negotiate a good price for the aircraft, as customer #1.
And often an MFN.

nerd Oct 1, 2011 1:04 am
Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 17202071)
And often an MFN.
What does that mean?

(We don't all work in the aircraft industry.. :))


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