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FlyingDoctorwu Jul 19, 2008 11:57 am

I've recently recieved my 3G iphone. I came from a palm 680... So far web browsing is ok- I had fairly speedy EDGE browsing (WAP/mini-html) on my 680 so it's comparable on the 3g iphone (on 3G/Wifi) but it's full sized and I actuallyu prefer the smaller form web (easier to read). Battery life I think has been great- I've always been data heavy on my PDA (Chatter-email/web on the Palm) so I guess a full day has been about what I am used to (even less than a full day sometime). Having Wifi has been great... The best app so far- Pandora radio- I love it on my desktop and now I love it on my iphone. works great over 3G I used it for about 2 hours this AM and still have pretty good battery left (80%)

LIH Prem Jul 19, 2008 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 10036879)
Am I the only person on the face of the earth who doesn't understand all the iPhone hype, and has no particular desire for one?

Surely there have to be others. Unite, my brethren!

I'm sure you aren't the only one.

I'd love to have one, but I don't want to pay $50 - $60 a month to the cell phone company. So, I'm very happy with my unlocked GSM razr using t-mobile to go as my provider which ends up costing me less that $10 a month with my light usage. (Plus the one-time cost of an unlocked GSM phone, you buy 1000 minutes for less than $100 -- discounted a bit online from 3rd parties -- which have a 1 year expiration date. Calls are 10 cents a minute, text messages are 5 cents with the 1000 pre-paid minutes.) My phone is an unlocked quad band GSM phone, so it pretty much works anywhere in the world.

Yes, I am the master of using 4 year old cell phone technology on the cheap, I guess. I also don't think I'm in the iphone target market.

IMO, the iphone service plan means it isn't for everybody. If you are already paying $40 a month for your cell phone plan, then I guess the extra $20 a month for the unlimited data plan isn't that huge of a difference. (It is, and it isn't.)

-David

gfunkdave Jul 19, 2008 5:15 pm

Fair enough - but I already spend $90/month for my service. The extra $30 is annoying but not insurmountable.

On the other hand, with T-mo now I get 1500 anytime minutes, free nights & weekends, 1000 text/mms messages, and unlimited blackberry data. The iPhone plans don't come close to that. :)

linsj Jul 19, 2008 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 10036879)
Am I the only person on the face of the earth who doesn't understand all the iPhone hype, and has no particular desire for one?

Surely there have to be others. Unite, my brethren!

I'm with you. I have no interest in paying that much for a phone or the service. Call me a troglodyte, but all I want from my phone is to be a phone.

weero Jul 20, 2008 2:22 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 10036973)
SAR didn't even enter my mind.

Isn't that a paradox - that's exactly where a high-SAR phone's radiation enters first :D .

But I agree, I couldn't care less than about the SAR.

The reason why I abstain at this time - the iPhone is a bandwidth hog. If you use it abroad, you will be ruined in no time.

Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 10039514)
..The N95 (the current Nokia flasgship phone) ALSO has a listed operating temperature of 0c - 35c, just like the iPhone..

I have yet to find a temperature at which my N95 actually does work. It never reads a GPS signal and finds wireless networks within about 2' distance from the transmitter. The N95 will be my last Nokia phone ever.

typical Jul 20, 2008 4:05 am


Originally Posted by weero (Post 10062519)
I have yet to find a temperature at which my N95 actually does work. It never reads a GPS signal and finds wireless networks within about 2' distance from the transmitter. The N95 will be my last Nokia phone ever.

Your N95 is broken.

weero Jul 20, 2008 6:54 am


Originally Posted by typical (Post 10062647)
Your N95 is broken.

:)
Sure ... only that I swapped it twice already .. and it's not that these functions are missing .. they are just messed up.

typical Jul 20, 2008 8:10 am


Originally Posted by weero (Post 10062890)
:)
Sure ... only that I swapped it twice already .. and it's not that these functions are missing .. they are just messed up.

Then it's just bizarre :) I've played with N95s, though I don't own one, and (particularly with the latest firmware) they're quick to lock onto GPS, and fine for wifi across a room.

gfunkdave Jul 20, 2008 11:07 am


Originally Posted by weero (Post 10062519)
I have yet to find a temperature at which my N95 actually does work. It never reads a GPS signal and finds wireless networks within about 2' distance from the transmitter. The N95 will be my last Nokia phone ever.

Funny, Nokias have always been my favorite phones (until I got a Blackberry). I've always experienced them as intuitive to use and capable of holding on to the weakest of signals.

mikem132 Jul 21, 2008 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 10059240)
You can email photos, it's pretty easy to do...
The GPS IS "real", in fact, it's more real than most units. A-GPS is assisted GPS, which combines satellite GPS with additional information from cell towers.
:D

a-GPS requires your cell service. True GPS does not. My HTC Mogul has a-GPS, too, and only works in the Verizon CDMA network (or so they have told me. Verizon is my carrier). I have a bluetooth GPS that I use with Tom Tom Navigator 6 that runs on that phone.

Vunder31 Jul 21, 2008 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by mikem132 (Post 10075117)
a-GPS requires your cell service. True GPS does not. My HTC Mogul has a-GPS, too, and only works in the Verizon CDMA network (or so they have told me. Verizon is my carrier). I have a bluetooth GPS that I use with Tom Tom Navigator 6 that runs on that phone.

If a phone with A-GPS cannot get location data from the cell network, it will resort to working as a normal GPS unit, searching for satellites just like a "true GPS", as you call it.

A phone with A-GPS does not need network data to work as a GPS unit unless the phone developers f*cked up.
A-GPS units use the info from the cell network to speed up the location fix and increase the accuracy compared to "true GPS" units.
Without the cell network data, an A-GPS unit becomes a "true GPS".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

DeltaWebDev Jul 22, 2008 6:25 am

the iphone hasn't done much for me, due largely to the lack of a physical qwerty keyboard. i'm waiting for the htc touch pro to come out so i can buy it unlocked. i'm probably in the minority, but winmo doesn't bother me at all. i've been running my tmobile mda overclocked for about a year now. it will burn through the battery faster, but i love being able to say i overclocked my phone. :D

what i'd like to find is winmo software for uma so that i'm not tied to just the devices tmobile offers for the hotspot at home. so far i've not been able to locate anything.

semantic Jul 23, 2008 7:24 am


Originally Posted by sultanbinaber (Post 10036928)
No, you are not ;)

I admit that I wanted to buy the new 3G, but the SAR value is extremely high (round 1.3). So I decided not to buy the iPhone.

I think I'll buy the new Samsung Omnia (i900 / http://samsungomnia.org) that has nearly the same features as the iPhone, also looks very nice and has only half the SAR value. Unfortunately it's not available yet :(

Greez, Jonathan

You can get it sim free on eBay as its been released on Asia. As a bonus, Microsoft have a 25% off offer on their live search for this phone, so the total cost will be 75% of $800..

weero Jul 23, 2008 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 10063650)
Funny, Nokias have always been my favorite phones (until I got a Blackberry). I've always experienced them as intuitive to use and capable of holding on to the weakest of signals.

Same with me.

This is why I want another one. Just never a N95 again.

weero Jul 23, 2008 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by typical (Post 10063047)
Then it's just bizarre :) I've played with N95s, though I don't own one, and (particularly with the latest firmware) they're quick to lock onto GPS, and fine for wifi across a room.

My GPS takes at least 5 minutes of open skies to compute a location. And while in Buenos Aires, it then planted me in the Mediterranean.

That is the new, replaced version. The first one did not see satellites at all.

The new one see a whole flock of satellites but cannot generate a coordinate from that :( .


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