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willyroo Jul 15, 2008 4:12 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 10039514)
In typical Nokia fashion, they are making a fool of themeselves.


Originally Posted by Nokia conversations
But, I must share with you one tongue-in-cheek comparison we have.

:)

CessnaJock Jul 15, 2008 4:14 pm

Ahem.
 

[Google Mobile Maps] always did even on the 2G.
"Just like Google Maps on your computer, Maps on iPhone lets you switch between views of Google Map data, Satellite images, and a Hybrid of both."

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/maps.html

In my lexicon, "just like" isn't the same as the original. I don't know who wrote "Maps on iPhone" - but I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison with GMM.

cblaisd Jul 15, 2008 4:28 pm

You're grasping at straws here :)

It's a Google Maps app.

No, it's not like what you see on your computer screen, but it's a way smaller screen.

For that matter, Google maps on any cell phone or PDA is not like on your computer, because it's smaller and if you're on EDGE it's slower.

So if you're saying that Google maps on the iPhone isn't Google maps on a laptop, I'm not sure that anyone would disagree but I'm not sure what you're saying other than a tautalogy. :)

CessnaJock Jul 15, 2008 4:32 pm

I use GMM on an iPAQ and a Wing. Neither is a laptop. I would like to be confident that GPS Maps on iPhone is the "same" as GMM. But I'm not.

cblaisd Jul 15, 2008 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by CessnaJock (Post 10039685)
I use GMM on an iPAQ and a Wing. Neither is a laptop.

The quote you referenced said: "Just like Google Maps on your computer...."

Therefore it's not unreasonable to think that's what you were comparing to, is it? Hence the apparent tautalogy of what you said. :)


I would like to be confident that GPS Maps on iPhone is the "same" as GMM. But I'm not.
I'm sure you'll share it with us when you know the answer.

JAaronT Jul 15, 2008 4:36 pm

I've used both. On the iPhone, it's better.

CessnaJock Jul 15, 2008 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by JAaronT (Post 10039707)
I've used both. On the iPhone, it's better.

Why do you say it's better? Have you used GMM on any PPC on a WiFi connection? That works in most cities.

But I don't imagine either will work very well on a bicycle in rural France.

ScottC Jul 15, 2008 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by CessnaJock (Post 10039782)
Why do you say it's better? Have you used GMM on any PPC on a WiFi connection? That works in most cities.

But I don't imagine either will work very well on a bicycle in rural France.

It's better because the user interface is much easier to use. Map scrolling is smoother and screen redraws are much faster than any PPC version I've ever tested.

That said; I personally prefer Windows Live Search because it adds things like gas prices and voice recognition.

ScottC Jul 15, 2008 5:16 pm


Originally Posted by CessnaJock (Post 10039577)
"Just like Google Maps on your computer, Maps on iPhone lets you switch between views of Google Map data, Satellite images, and a Hybrid of both."

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/maps.html

In my lexicon, "just like" isn't the same as the original. I don't know who wrote "Maps on iPhone" - but I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison with GMM.

You have a very valid point here - for some reason, Google no longer has their name openly associated with maps on the iPhone (at least not on the Apple site).

It was introduced as a 100% Google app, and they even had the Google CEO on stage to announce it back in 2007.

That said, a 20 second search shows that it still is clearly a Google made app for the iPhone:

http://www.google.com/mobile/apple/maps/

CessnaJock Jul 15, 2008 8:57 pm

Okay, Mr. Google convinced me there. Funny about that branding, though. Is this a further manifestation of Jobs trying to wrest world control away from Bill G?

wiredboy10003 Jul 17, 2008 1:02 pm


Originally Posted by CessnaJock (Post 10040916)
Is this a further manifestation of Jobs trying to wrest world control away from Bill G?

Don't worry. Jobs only wants the cool, fun people. :p:p:p:p:p

gfunkdave Jul 17, 2008 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by wiredboy10003 (Post 10050632)
Don't worry. Jobs only wants the cool, fun people. :p:p:p:p:p

Well, at least the people who are cool and fun by his standards. The people who want to be nonconformists - just like all the other Apple brainwashees. :)

Open source is where it's at!

mikem132 Jul 19, 2008 5:43 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 10036879)
Am I the only person on the face of the earth who doesn't understand all the iPhone hype, and has no particular desire for one?

Surely there have to be others. Unite, my brethren!

I got to play with one the other day (the new 3G one). It is beautiful, BUT...
battery barely makes it through the day, ATT 3G is extremely (emphasis) limited coverage, can't take a picture and email it to somebody (at least not that we could see), no storage card, no REAL GPS (only a-GPS so cell tower related), limited to Google Maps which does not provide turn-by-turn routing like a real GPS (text only), not so great as an actual phone (poor battery, mainly).
This thing is fantastic as an iPod, but lacks some function as a PDA, in what I've seen. Style over function, to a degree. I have a Win Mob 6 phone that does a lot more, but not as stylish.

ScottC Jul 19, 2008 7:25 am


Originally Posted by mikem132 (Post 10058985)
I got to play with one the other day (the new 3G one). It is beautiful, BUT...
battery barely makes it through the day, ATT 3G is extremely (emphasis) limited coverage, can't take a picture and email it to somebody (at least not that we could see), no storage card, no REAL GPS (only a-GPS so cell tower related), limited to Google Maps which does not provide turn-by-turn routing like a real GPS (text only), not so great as an actual phone (poor battery, mainly).
This thing is fantastic as an iPod, but lacks some function as a PDA, in what I've seen. Style over function, to a degree. I have a Win Mob 6 phone that does a lot more, but not as stylish.

You can email photos, it's pretty easy to do...
The GPS IS "real", in fact, it's more real than most units. A-GPS is assisted GPS, which combines satellite GPS with additional information from cell towers.
The app store only just opened, so at the moment there is indeed only one GPS app, but Apple have already announced that more are coming.

I agree with the rest, and battery life is something that's going to come back and haunt them for a long time.

What amazes me most is that all their arguments for not releasing the first iPhone with 3G turned out to be bogus. They are using a 3G chip that was available last year, it's almost like they scammed everyone into buying the EDGE version knowing that they'd all want the 3G version after a year, essentially making them buy 2 phones :D

Non-NonRev Jul 19, 2008 9:21 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 10036879)
Am I the only person on the face of the earth who doesn't understand all the iPhone hype

No. Although, one Mr. P. Barnum did offer some pertinent insight :)


...and has no particular desire for one?
I'd rather gargle with used, rusty razor blazes than own any product put out by the Clandestine Cupertino Cabal ;)


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