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sithlord Jan 14, 2006 6:22 pm

Here's something for people want to upgrade there current pb to 1.92ghz.http://daystartechnology.com/Daystar..._Alum_Dev.html

ScottC Jan 14, 2006 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by sithlord
Here's something for people want to upgrade there current pb to 1.92ghz.http://daystartechnology.com/Daystar..._Alum_Dev.html

Wow... Daystar is still around... I remember when they made a turbo upgrade for my good old Mac II and IIfx!

iwebslinger Jan 14, 2006 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
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Also amazing how it is suddenly 5 times faster than the G5, despite Apple claiming all these years that "MHz don't matter"...

Perhaps I'll buy one so I can install Windows on it :D

^ :D

Arthurrs Jan 14, 2006 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
I just don't understand that; a lot of Mac users say the same but I never fight with Windows. It is stable, never crashes and with proper care I never ever care about spyware or other hassles.

What is it about Mac users that makes them incapable of working with Windows?

What? You mean you never have had to install some Windows patches to patch patches you patched last week after the previous patch broke the patch you patched that didn't fix the original patch you patched, right? :D Or perhaps you never had to clean up spyware, or tweak your Registries? Or do the usual "wipe your hard drive and install a fresh copy of windows" that tech support insists you must do when your PC sneezes? Somehow I think you're not being totally honest with us about your windows experience or you have been deprived ScottC! ;) :p

iwebslinger Jan 14, 2006 8:50 pm

I think I have said this before somewhere on this board. I believe one of these days Steve Jobs will come out on Macworld and pull a Mission Impossible and pull his face off and underneath there will be Bill Gates. The Intel move is only a small step to full assimilation into the Bill's kingdom.
:D :D :D


I need more cool aid - buy a mac. :D :D :D

CrazyOne Jan 14, 2006 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
Wow... Daystar is still around... I remember when they made a turbo upgrade for my good old Mac II and IIfx!

It's like the second or third iteration of Daystar now. I can't remember who owns the name at the moment, but if I recall it was the name bought by someone else, not the same Daystar continuously from back then.

GadgetFreak Jan 15, 2006 4:02 am


Originally Posted by iwebslinger
I think I have said this before somewhere on this board. I believe one of these days Steve Jobs will come out on Macworld and pull a Mission Impossible and pull his face off and underneath there will be Bill Gates. The Intel move is only a small step to full assimilation into the Bill's kingdom.
:D :D :D


I need more cool aid - buy a mac. :D :D :D

Microsoft owns Intel??

MilesAndMore Jan 15, 2006 4:59 am

Did Microsoft not invest $400 Mill when all hope was lost for Apple ( post Gil Amelio ?). And now Microsoft promises to keep Office support for another five years. Looks like it is Microsoft's interest to keep Apple alive or be further challenged as a monopoly and risk potential breakup.

nmenaker Jan 15, 2006 8:31 am

100
 
It was 100 or 150 million,

the year was 1997

swise Jan 15, 2006 11:20 am


Originally Posted by nmenaker
It was 100 or 150 million,

the year was 1997

It was non-voting stock that was sold years ago.

The "investment" and the 5 year cross-license agreement were essentially a settlement to end the legal gui patent disputes that had been ongoing over the years and perhaps even then put recent, gross violations never officially acknowledged behind them.

Steve had just returned to the company, and it was attempt to wipe the slate and get on with things.

Of course, all people took away from it was that "microsoft was bailing out apple," which wasn't really the case. $150 million does not a bailout make. As a gesture of commitment from gates it sufficed. After all, would it make sense for him to keep screwing over a company that he had $150M invested in? (Of course it would, but we're talking gestures, which often don't make sense in practical terms.)

ScottC Jan 15, 2006 11:27 am


Originally Posted by swise
It was non-voting stock that was sold years ago.

The "investment" and the 5 year cross-license agreement were essentially a settlement to end the legal gui patent disputes that had been ongoing over the years and perhaps even then put recent, gross violations never officially acknowledged behind them.

Steve had just returned to the company, and it was attempt to wipe the slate and get on with things.

Of course, all people took away from it was that "microsoft was bailing out apple," which wasn't really the case. $150 million does not a bailout make. As a gesture of commitment from gates it sufficed. After all, would it make sense for him to keep screwing over a company that he had $150M invested in? (Of course it would, but we're talking gestures, which often don't make sense in practical terms.)


Well, lets be honest; Apple wasn't exactly in great shape at the time either. This was pre imac, pre ipod and all they had going for them were their Powerbooks and blue/white G3 machines. I'm sure the money wasn't a total bailout, but it probably didn't hurt either. Of course, Jobs turned the company around in a magnificant way and the rest is history...

swise Jan 15, 2006 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
Well, lets be honest; Apple wasn't exactly in great shape at the time either. This was pre imac, pre ipod and all they had going for them were their Powerbooks and blue/white G3 machines. I'm sure the money wasn't a total bailout, but it probably didn't hurt either. Of course, Jobs turned the company around in a magnificant way and the rest is history...

it wasn't even a fractional bailout. I agree with you that it didn't hurt, but it was such a small amount that it wasn't enough to help either.

Long term, I think without it Apple would be in the same position it is now even if they hadn't accepted the trade.

Speaking of stock, congrats to everyone who has any AAPL. Normally I try to contain myself, but this past week, it's been too good. ^

FlyingToFly Jan 15, 2006 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by Arthurrs
What? You mean you never have had to install some Windows patches to patch patches you patched last week after the previous patch broke the patch you patched that didn't fix the original patch you patched, right? :D Or perhaps you never had to clean up spyware, or tweak your Registries? Or do the usual "wipe your hard drive and install a fresh copy of windows" that tech support insists you must do when your PC sneezes? Somehow I think you're not being totally honest with us about your windows experience or you have been deprived ScottC! ;) :p

I've used both operating systems rather extensively -- Apple's when I work with Adobe Pagemaker (the Windows version isn't nearly as polished), and Microsoft's at home. I can see the merits of both.

However, when I run across posts such as the one I quoted above, I wonder if there isn't more than a little stereotypying at work, because I have never run into problems involving updates/spyware/registry whatsoever.

As for your last comment regarding advice from tech support, I do believe it more involves the competency of that specific tech support agent, rather than the competency of the operating system itself.

ScottC Jan 15, 2006 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by swise
it wasn't even a fractional bailout. I agree with you that it didn't hurt, but it was such a small amount that it wasn't enough to help either.

Long term, I think without it Apple would be in the same position it is now even if they hadn't accepted the trade.

Speaking of stock, congrats to everyone who has any AAPL. Normally I try to contain myself, but this past week, it's been too good. ^

Close your eyes and imagine where AAPL would be without the ipod ;)

swise Jan 15, 2006 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingToFly
As for your last comment regarding advice from tech support, I do believe it more involves the competency of that specific tech support agent, rather than the competency of the operating system itself.

At this point it might be worth pointing out that Apple's phone tech support (and customer support as well) has been ranked #1 by Consumer Reports 6 years running. Each year Apple's score has gotten higher while the gap between them and their nearest competitor has increased.

Free in-store tech support is provided by the Mac Geniuses at the 130+ Apple Retail store locations across the US, Canada, Japan and the UK.

Free seminars are also offered in-store covering topics from getting started with Mac OS X to how to use Apple's pro video/photo/music software.

Apple's online support is also ranked the best and has been several years running. Unline most sites, it's actually useful. I particularly like the searchable discussion forums.

Most agents are in-house. If you need someone at an odd hour, even then you're most likely to get an agent who is in-house, though they may be based in Europe and primarily support European customers. They don't work off of scripts, and they have a pretty good escalation path to QA engineers to ensure that any quality issues uncovered by customers are addressed efficiently.

None of this can be said for pretty much any other computer company, where support is considered a tedious afterthought.


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