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DavidNZ Nov 1, 2005 9:52 pm

Buy a CD, get a rootkit as a bonus?
 
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...al-rights.html

Seems Sony *might* be installing root kits on people's computers if they buy CDs that have their own media player on the CD.

Keep that auto-play turned off on your CD drives, everyone!

jeffreyt Nov 1, 2005 11:06 pm

And speaking of Rootkits, for those that know what they are... Rootkits : Subverting the Windows Kernel is a must read.

DavidNZ Nov 1, 2005 11:22 pm

More on the matter: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=919

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archi...ve-112005.html

UAVirgin Nov 2, 2005 9:06 am

I experienced this issue first hand a couple weeks back when I put the latest switchfoot CD in and wasn't paying attention (blindly clicking OK). It installed the Sony copy protection software. It took me close to 2 hours to get my machine back to normal. Boy was I hot after that... :mad:

SRQ Guy Nov 2, 2005 9:30 am

This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. :mad:

Arthurrs Nov 2, 2005 2:15 pm

Heh, I saw a bunch of unreadable software on the latest Switchfoot CD myself! Of course it wasn't any bother to me, since the rootkit does not affect my Mac PowerBook whatsoever! Great tunes on that CD BTW! :p

UAVirgin Nov 2, 2005 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by Arthurrs
Heh, I saw a bunch of unreadable software on the latest Switchfoot CD myself! Of course it wasn't any bother to me, since the rootkit does not affect my Mac PowerBook whatsoever! Great tunes on that CD BTW! :p

Ya, ya, rub it in. :o

Arthurrs Nov 2, 2005 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by UAVirgin
Ya, ya, rub it in. :o

:D Just waiting for you to make that transition from the dark side to Macintosh! :D ;)

chuckd Nov 2, 2005 2:47 pm

I will gladly start buying cds again the day they start making them containing nothing but music and I can do with it what I want. I hate you sony and microsoft drm.

ScottC Nov 2, 2005 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by Arthurrs
:D Just waiting for you to make that transition from the dark side to Macintosh! :D ;)

Just because the box is white doesn't make it the "bright side" :D

Arthurrs Nov 2, 2005 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
Just because the box is white doesn't make it the "bright side" :D

LOL! There's still hope for you Scott! :D

UAVirgin Nov 3, 2005 11:39 am

Looks as if the bad press has given Sony second thoughts.. El Reg is reporting that Sony is having second thoughts.

There is a paragraph in the article that says that Sony hasn't had a single complaint about the problem. That isn't surprising since Sony's customer support is abysmal. It close to impossible to try and get a complaint through to them via web, email or phone.

Edited to add: Here a link to the software to remove this rootkit.

UAVirgin Nov 3, 2005 3:15 pm

For those that care about this issue, my post #12 is not totally accurate. The link is for software to unhide the rootkit. If you want to delete the rootkit entirely you must go to the Sony BMG problem reporting form, fill out the form and then wait for an email. By following the email instructions you will eventually get a link to a web site that uses an activeX control to remove the rootkit. All-in-all pretty cumbersome and but it does appear to work.

BeCarlson Nov 3, 2005 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by DavidNZ
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...al-rights.html

Seems Sony *might* be installing root kits on people's computers if they buy CDs that have their own media player on the CD.

Keep that auto-play turned off on your CD drives, everyone!

Well, this news makes me even more happy with my recent switch to the Macintosh platform. The "rootkit" will have no effect on my Powerbook.

ScottC Nov 3, 2005 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by BeCarlson
Well, this news makes me even more happy with my recent switch to the Macintosh platform. The "rootkit" will have no effect on my Powerbook.

Not installing things without knowing what they are will also prevent stuff like this. I'd never install anything off a DVD or CD unless I know exactly what it is.


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