What is wrong with Nokia??? (New phones...)
 

They have gone bonkers...

Square phones?

Photo viewing medallions?

Portable Porn Viewer???

Don't forget the n-gage, which apparently sucks: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=80041&cid=7061973

They obviously feel being out-innovated by Samsung, Kyocera, LG, and other Korean manufacturers.

So they want to bump up the innovations since they let their product line get too mature (ie 5100, 6100, 8100...)

Obviously some of these new designs are way too over-the-top IMHO.

Too bad they can't get back to basics and design good, innovative products that are not too bizarre.

I agree, the days of the 2110, 8110 and 6110 are long gone http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/frown.gif

The largest growth demographic for cell phones is young folk. This is what they think will appeal to them.

Oh yeah, I'll be all over that Photo Viewing Medallion. I can't wait until 2004! http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

not as bonkers as siemens, who are coming out with this trash:

http://www.xelibri.com/
http://www.cellular.co.za/phones/sie...ns-xelibri.htm

they've spent big bucks (including 30-sec primetime TV commercials) to push this sh*t, but i've yet to see anyone using one... http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...m/rolleyes.gif

I'll tell ya ... is wrong with Nokia. It's called arrogance.

Take the N-gage for example. Months ago, everyone who got to see this device said "great idea but the game loading mechanism [where you need to take off the battery] is crap". Nokia are just so good they they decided they were right in the first place over this one.

Take the whole bluetooth issue where they failed to take a very significant piece of technology from a competitor seriously. I stopped buying Nokias over this.

Take the Communicator. How long have some of us been crying out for GPRS/Bluetooth enable version of this?

Edited to add: Hmmmm, an unusualy fiery post from me.

[This message has been edited by Internaut (edited 09-27-2003).]

Unusualy fiery but VERY true, well written!

I saw this a couple of years ago when they were something stupid like 18 months late to market with triband cell phones, and then released them on very limited models. Ericsson (SE) went the opposite way and started putting it in a lot of models, this coincidentally was the start of their resurgance in the market.

I remember being at the CeBit and talking to Jorma Ollia, the CEO or Nokia, it was the year Motorola hit the market with the L7089 Tri-band phone, when I asked him about Nokia's plans for tri-band devices he was arrogant enough to answer that as long as they didn't think it was a necessary feature nobody would need it. According to him it was NOKIA who decided what was "cool" and what wasn't. Needless to say that passing through airports seeing 100's of business travellers all using their Motorola Timeports made it obvious he had screwed up and underestimated the market. Even Nokia's first "world" phone was a 900/1900 phone, long after Ericsson and Motorola had tri-band phones on the market.

The Xelibri concept is "phone as a fashion accessory." It's meant to sell into the same demographic that spends hundreds of dollars on a Luis Vuitton handbag. It's all about form over function.

You couldn't even buy the 1st generation in a traditional cell phone store. Only in fashio boutiques.

Strictly for wanabes in the "bling bling" sector. Real money that pays for real fashion pays for a Vertu.

Not being real in either sense, I'm not sure what type of handbag you might put a Vertu into though http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

Edited for English. I suffer from the curse of Travel Tech once more.

[This message has been edited by Internaut (edited 09-29-2003).]

Probably Prada, Fendi, Vuitton, or Chanel. Putting a $6000 phone in a $2000 purse doesnt seem right. Well, they dont seem right separately either come to think of it http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif

As to Nokia, they actually make a lot of phones. Some are very solid, very high quality phones with features matched to the business person. They are also trying to spread around to get as much market as they can by hitting the kids who want goofy stuff. Cant say I blame them. Actually, same is true of Siemens. They make some killer phones (S55 and SL55 for instance) for business use. But are trying to expand and creat some new markets. Cant say I blame them.

I like the term "torqued curves". My wife just got a picture phone from Verizon. I think that's enough technology to keep her busy till she is eligible for another upgrade. Does anybody really pay for downloadable games and ringtones?