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Well, today they once again proved that they have lost the plot. While SonyEricsson and Motorola are introducing radical new phones Nokia has ONE new phone for Cebit, and of course they show the world that they haven't learned a single lession from their 3650 keyboard debacle and introduce the 7610, with another wacky keyboard...
All their other new products are stuff nobody is waiting for, image viewers a new carkit and a new mediamaster. I say Motorola and SonyEricsson will overtake them within 4 years. |
But look at Mot's newer devices, they would have felt NO need to go away from the generic "candybar" and flip devices if folks like Nokia (and alot more so) Samsung didn't set some design standards.
BTW: The square Nokia 7600 is selling like hotcakes... Go figure this wacky market. For sure our view here on FT doesn't get listened to by either the device mfr's *OR* the end users. |
Quad-band will be standard on the APAC designed GSM phones by mid next year... let's see how "slowly" Nokia grasps this.
Having the SAME PHONES for GSM900/1800/1900 and then another version with the ONLY CHANGE to RF as GSM850/1800/1900 is a logistical nightmare. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NickP 1K: But look at Mot's newer devices, they would have felt NO need to go away from the generic "candybar" and flip devices if folks like Nokia (and alot more so) Samsung didn't set some design standards. BTW: The square Nokia 7600 is selling like hotcakes... Go figure this wacky market. For sure our view here on FT doesn't get listened to by either the device mfr's *OR* the end users.</font> I think the 7600 is selling so well because it's the first decent WCDMA device, so far the Moto and Nec phones haven't been well received... |
Nokia who?
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OK, it's official.
Nokia is now completely out of touch with the market: http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/new-...260-021004.php What on earth are they thinking when they design this stuff? |
Originally Posted by ScottC
OK, it's official.
Nokia is now completely out of touch with the market: http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/new-...260-021004.php What on earth are they thinking when they design this stuff? Edited to add: Oh, that picture at the top of your linked page is a phone??? |
Originally Posted by ScottC
OK, it's official.
Nokia is now completely out of touch with the market: http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/new-...260-021004.php What on earth are they thinking when they design this stuff? |
I agree with most of the observations above, except that facts seem to belie our consensus that Nokia hasn't done anything right lately. Personally I think the last great phone that Nokia made was the 6310.
Cellphone Giant Nokia Raises Outlook for Quarter By DAVID PRINGLE Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL September 9, 2004 1:47 p.m. Nokia Corp, the world's largest cellphone maker, raised its earnings forecasts for the third quarter because of stronger-than-expected demand for its handsets in an early sign the Finnish giant may be turning around its business after a poor six months. Nokia said it now expects to earn between 11 and 13 European cents a share in this quarter compared with its earlier forecast of between eight and 10 European cents a share. Although that is still well below the 17 European cents a share Nokia earned in the third quarter of 2003, the new outlook was welcome news for investors who have seen their Nokia shares pummeled so far this year. In Helsinki, Nokia's shares rose 8% to €11.32 ($13.80), a jump that gave a boost to other stocks on both sides of the Atlantic. Richard Simonson, Nokia's chief financial officer, said the global cellphone market is proving to be stronger than the company had expected so it has spent less on marketing. He also said Nokia has seen strong sales of some high-margin phones and is gaining market share in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. However, he cautioned that the Espoo, Finland, company still faces challenges in North America. |
I dunno, the new 9300 is pretty amazing....
and as for the new releases today, they are not aimed at the early adopters.....which most people in this discussion group are, you can tell because it is a discussion group about technology...target buyers would never be in such a place :) The lipstick phone with the apple like scroll wheel is chick-friendly (not meaning to offend...) |
I think Nokia just passed the 1 million mark with the N-Gauge. The company I cant see going anywhere is Motorola. In addition to the N-Guage I think the new communicators have a lot of promise, both the 9500 and 9300 series. They are just trying to hit a lot of specialized market with a wide range of phones.
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
I think Nokia just passed the 1 million mark with the N-Gauge. The company I cant see going anywhere is Motorola. In addition to the N-Guage I think the new communicators have a lot of promise, both the 9500 and 9300 series. They are just trying to hit a lot of specialized market with a wide range of phones.
The Mpx smartphone will be cheaper and more flexible than the Communicators as it runs on PocketPC, the A630 with it's clamshell AND keyboard with AIM client will be massive amongst kids.... They are already doing great with phones like the V600, even though I hate Motorola phones with a passion :D |
Th only thing I like about Nokia is that the same charger I bought four years ago still works. :p
When I was in Asia, I read that Nokia introduces about 4 new models a MONTH. Stupid. :td: |
Originally Posted by redbeard911
Th only thing I like about Nokia is that the same charger I bought four years ago still works. :p
When I was in Asia, I read that Nokia introduces about 4 new models a MONTH. Stupid. :td: |
All I want is a GSM 6100 with quad-band, Bluetooth, and a standard head-set adapter. Period.
I don't want a camera or gimmicks. Just a good, SMALL, basic, professional phone. (What is with that screwy headset adapter? A headset lasts a month before the connector doesn't seat firmly.) |
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