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StuckInYYZ Oct 25, 2024 7:41 am


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 36622898)
Does it mean that Samsung Smarttag2 only works with a Samsung phone or any android just as good? I have an iPhone and the main reason is the AirTag and if I find an android one as good then I will immediately get rid of my iPhone.

You need a Samsung phone (I'm not sure if the Smartthings app works on non-Samsung phones). It's the biggest blunder I feel Samsung made. If they threw open compatibility to everyone it'd be cool. Also not all Samsung phones have UWB. You pretty much need an S series phone or maybe a flex series. I don't think the mid-tier or lower have UWB (would be happy to be wrong)

TWA884 Oct 25, 2024 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ (Post 36623089)
Also not all Samsung phones have UWB. You pretty much need an S series phone or maybe a flex series. I don't think the mid-tier or lower have UWB (would be happy to be wrong)


What is UWB and which Samsung Galaxy phones support it?

That said, Samsung is picky about what models get UWB connectivity; the standard model in its Galaxy S series misses out on the feature, and it is limited to the Plus and Ultra models.
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra
  • Samsung Galaxy S21+
  • Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
  • Samsung Galaxy S22+
  • Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra
  • Samsung Galaxy S23+
  • Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra
  • Samsung Galaxy S24+
  • Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra
  • Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2
  • Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3
  • Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4
  • Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5


Silver Fox Oct 26, 2024 12:02 am

I read about Pebblebee in another thread and I guess that now Google's Find My Device is working it might be an alternative or at least worthy of some investigation.

der_saeufer Oct 26, 2024 10:56 am


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 36622898)
Does it mean that Samsung Smarttag2 only works with a Samsung phone or any android just as good? I have an iPhone and the main reason is the AirTag and if I find an android one as good then I will immediately get rid of my iPhone.

They're two separate systems. Samsung's tags have been around for a few years but only work with Samsung phones. Android Find My Device tags only started shipping in May 2024 but work with virtually any phone running Android (including Samsung).

Unlike Apple, Google doesn't make tags--there are several OEMs including Chipolo, Pebblebee and Motorola, each with their own pros and cons. For example, Chipolo's tags are LOUD. Pebblebee's tags are rechargeable vs. taking a CR2032. Motorola's tags are close enough in size to Airtags to fit into all the aftermarket holders for Airtags. etc.

There are also non-Apple tags that work with iOS: Chipolo, Pebblebee, Eufy, Jio, etc. all make them. To further complicate it, Pebblebee now sells "universal" tags that work with both networks, but only one at a time--if you set it up on an iPhone, you can't add it to FMD on Android and vice versa.

Whether the Android tags are as good as Airtags depends on what you want to do with them and, to some extent, where.

Davvidd Oct 26, 2024 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by der_saeufer (Post 36625733)
They're two separate systems. Samsung's tags have been around for a few years but only work with Samsung phones. Android Find My Device tags only started shipping in May 2024 but work with virtually any phone running Android (including Samsung).

Unlike Apple, Google doesn't make tags--there are several OEMs including Chipolo, Pebblebee and Motorola, each with their own pros and cons. For example, Chipolo's tags are LOUD. Pebblebee's tags are rechargeable vs. taking a CR2032. Motorola's tags are close enough in size to Airtags to fit into all the aftermarket holders for Airtags. etc.

There are also non-Apple tags that work with iOS: Chipolo, Pebblebee, Eufy, Jio, etc. all make them. To further complicate it, Pebblebee now sells "universal" tags that work with both networks, but only one at a time--if you set it up on an iPhone, you can't add it to FMD on Android and vice versa.

Whether the Android tags are as good as Airtags depends on what you want to do with them and, to some extent, where.

Thank you very much. I normally travel around Asia and to Canada. I can basically see where my luggage is most of the time when it is unloaded or loaded on the aircraft or at least around the area of the aircraft to be loaded.
I prefer an Android phone and what is your advice if I can ask you? Should I go for an android acceptable tag? I only use for my luggage.

StuckInYYZ Oct 26, 2024 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 36626196)
Thank you very much. I normally travel around Asia and to Canada. I can basically see where my luggage is most of the time when it is unloaded or loaded on the aircraft or at least around the area of the aircraft to be loaded.
I prefer an Android phone and what is your advice if I can ask you? Should I go for an android acceptable tag? I only use for my luggage.

Depends on how badly you need updating. I find in Asia, Apple, while prevalent in some places, isn't as dominant there. Granted I haven't tried Samsung tags there, but I suspect it shouldn't be a problem. Google's FMD I'd be a little more weary, only because some of these companies may or may not be there in a few years time and firmware could become an issue. At least with Apple and Samsung, they're likely to be there for the long run.

That said, I find Google loves to do things without giving much thought and also has a bad habit of killing projects that aren't hits.

der_saeufer Oct 26, 2024 11:00 pm

For the purpose of knowing whether your luggage made the flight or not, I think both systems are equally useful: I wouldn't run a mobile OS I didn't like just to use the other's tags.

Firmware updates for third-party tags are definitely a potential future issue, but it's unlikely the inability to update would lock them out of the network altogether. Even if so, these are $25 devices.

EAJuggalo Oct 27, 2024 6:29 am

I've now used my Samsung SmartTag2s on quite a few flights and I've never had a problem. It was very helpful last month when bag made a connection on AA that I didn't make. My use case is that I want to make sure my bag is at the same airport I am. In this case my bag ended up at MCO while I went to MLB. I knew exactly where my bag was and was able to figure out a way to get it to me, then was able to follow it all the way to me. At every connection, as soon as I take my S24 out of airplane mode, I open Smart Things and check it. It's always shown me within 20 seconds that it's where I am. It may not show exact distance, but it clearly shows it's at the airport with me.

StuckInYYZ Oct 27, 2024 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by der_saeufer (Post 36626764)
Firmware updates for third-party tags are definitely a potential future issue, but it's unlikely the inability to update would lock them out of the network altogether. Even if so, these are $25 devices.

It shouldn't, but I've seen weirder. Device security has become more and more serious as of late (eg, the Government issued a warning last week or the week before about not updating security patches would get you locked out of the system). I wouldn't be surprised to see it spread out even more.

Davvidd Oct 28, 2024 3:30 pm

I have been using Oneplus for a very long time. So I will wait until they get out the Oneplus 13 at the end of this month. Hopefully it will work the smart tags of Samsung.

elCheapoDeluxe Oct 30, 2024 5:15 pm

I got a few of the pebblebee tags. Two worked pretty flawlessly. The third I had to reset a couple of times to get it to work - but I attribute that to starting the process and then being prompted to enable the find my network on my account mid-stream, causing the process to get interrupted.


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