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blackjack-21 May 22, 2020 2:56 am

"New" Microsost Edge Download?
 
We got an email then an attempt to set up Microsoft's newer Edge download, which I've been able to put off for a week or two. Already have the original free download with Edge, but now this one seems to be a newer version, or so it seems, but I am not too keen on downloading another Microsoft large download with the chance of messing up our older pc.

Anyone receive a similar download attempt, and if so, is it really something newer and better then before? Seems it will be a very long download if all items are taken, and is it really any different and worth the effort. They say it will have better security among other features, but my Norton works just fine.

Thanks,

bj-21.

DYKWIA May 22, 2020 3:10 pm

You seem to mixing up lots of technologies here.

Edge is a browser like Internet Explorer or Chrome. The new version of Edge is actually based on Chrome, and replaces the version of Edge that ships with Windows 10. In practice, there shouldn't be much difference unless you use lots of the older Edge extensions.

The download of the new Edge should only take a few minutes at maximum depending on your broadband speed (it was seconds on my Windows machine). If it's a "large download" as you say, the be wary that it's actually Edge you are downloading.

I use Chrome anyway, so Edge won't make any difference to me.

Installing it won't break anything. It will just sit there unused. Microsoft will probably force the download in a future Windows 10 update anyway.

CPRich May 22, 2020 8:15 pm

Do you use Edge?


Originally Posted by blackjack-21 (Post 32394851)
Seems it will be a very long download if all items are taken

Based on what? Do you have a time constraint for downloads? Mine always run overnight.


Originally Posted by blackjack-21 (Post 32394851)
They say it will have better security among other features, but my Norton works just fine.

Very different technologies.

Being current on software is generally a good idea.

garykung May 22, 2020 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by blackjack-21 (Post 32394851)
Anyone receive a similar download attempt, and if so, is it really something newer and better then before?

It is definitely newer. However, given the history of Microsoft (as well as others), I would not say it is necessary better.

AFAICT, this installation does not harm your PC. So I would encourage you to install it, like other updates.


Originally Posted by blackjack-21 (Post 32394851)
Seems it will be a very long download if all items are taken, and is it really any different and worth the effort.

It takes no longer than 5 minutes for the entire installation with download, assuming your computer does not use a low-end CPU. The best thing about this installation is you don't even need to restart to use the new Edge.


Originally Posted by blackjack-21 (Post 32394851)
They say it will have better security among other features, but my Norton works just fine.

FWIW - things evolves daily with internet. So it is not necessary that both Microsoft and Norton can catch everything. So just because you have Norton, it does not mean you don't install updates.

Beside - I stop using Norton/Symantec because it takes up too many resources and Windows Defender works surprisingly well as a Windows 10 feature.

s0ssos May 23, 2020 12:12 am


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32396393)
You seem to mixing up lots of technologies here.

Edge is a browser like Internet Explorer or Chrome. The new version of Edge is actually based on Chrome, and replaces the version of Edge that ships with Windows 10. In practice, there shouldn't be much difference unless you use lots of the older Edge extensions.

Actually the Chromium based Edge came out in January. This is new. It is Microsoft's push to be more integrated (like with their new search soon).
Per the release notes it came out May 21, so I'd give it a while before installing it, to let other people deal with the bugs first (like any Microsoft product)

abc5 May 23, 2020 9:39 pm

took me about 5 min of reading but i found what i wanted. its the downloadable offline install of new edge, based on Chromiun,

unlike the default installer, which is not Edge but merely reaches back out to download Edge, this is the actual install.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download

s0ssos May 23, 2020 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by abc5 (Post 32399157)
took me about 5 min of reading but i found what i wanted. its the downloadable offline install of new edge, based on Chromiun,

unlike the default installer, which is not Edge but merely reaches back out to download Edge, this is the actual install.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download

That seems to be the trend nowadays. For a fun rabbit-hole journey, try to get the offline installer of the .NET 3.5 installer

exp Jun 25, 2020 1:48 pm

My HP x360 updated and got the Edge browser loaded in the dock with a desktop shortcut.

I had previously uninstalled the browser which came with W10 in favor of Chrome.

Haven't uninstalled it but not sure why there would be a good reason to keep it. Doesn't it also use the chromium engine?

TWA884 Jun 25, 2020 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by exp (Post 32485128)
Haven't uninstalled it but not sure why there would be a good reason to keep it. Doesn't it also use the chromium engine?

It has a similar interface as Chrome but, in my experience, it uses less memory had has substantially lower CPU usage.

BigLar Jun 25, 2020 4:13 pm

On a machine still running Windows 7. I naturally get a lot of updates from Microsoft, but for some time now they've just been security updates to Windows Defender. However, yesterday I got that usual security update and also the following:


Microsoft Edge Update for Windows 7 for x86-based Systems (KB4567409)

Download size: 75.2 MB

You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.

Update type: Recommended

This update provides the latest feature and quality updates to Microsoft Edge.

More information:
https://support.microsoft.com/help/4567409

Help and Support:
https://support.microsoft.com/help/4567409
so:

1. Will Edge run fine on Win 7? I would think it will, especially since it's based on Chrome, and
2. I thought they weren't doing any updates to Windows 7?

DYKWIA Jun 28, 2020 4:26 am


Originally Posted by Sally675 (Post 32491065)
Why?

Windows 7 is end of life. There are no new security updates being issued.

https://www.howtogeek.com/469843/win...-need-to-know/


Microsoft released Windows 7 in October 2009. Now, more than a decade later, it’s being retired. Your Windows 7 PCs will keep working, but Microsoft is no longer issuing security patches as of January 14, 2020.

garykung Jun 28, 2020 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by BigLar (Post 32485472)
1. Will Edge run fine on Win 7? I would think it will, especially since it's based on Chrome, and

Yes, it can.


Originally Posted by BigLar (Post 32485472)
2. I thought they weren't doing any updates to Windows 7?

It seems this is a one-time off (Microsoft has done couples of one-time off for EOL software in the past).


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