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vanillabean May 5, 2019 2:48 pm

Streaming from outside the US
 
You cannot stream on airplane wifi, but what about your hotel outside the country? Is there any way to stream live TV or on demand there from back home? I have tried Comcast provider authentication in iPad apps in one US time zone, but still can only get the local for live, and VPN didn’t help. Maybe Hulu is the way to go.

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to...de-us-3672619/
https://www.hulu.com/live-tv

StuckInYYZ May 5, 2019 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 31070313)
You cannot stream on airplane wifi, but what about your hotel outside the country? Is there any way to stream live TV or on demand there from back home? I have tried Comcast provider authentication in iPad apps in one US time zone, but still can only get the local for live, and VPN didn’t help. Maybe Hulu is the way to go.

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to...de-us-3672619/
https://www.hulu.com/live-tv

Depends on your VPN provider Some of them will work, some will not.

BTW, on some airlines, you can stream, but be prepared for jerky performance.

deniah May 5, 2019 4:15 pm

Slingbox is made for this

DYKWIA May 6, 2019 3:59 am

I have a OpenVPN installed on my router (very easy to do). I just then open a VPN connection from wherever I am, and it's as if I was at home. All the streaming services I use (BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, Netflix, Amazon Prime etc.) all work.

HDQDD May 6, 2019 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 31070313)
You cannot stream on airplane wifi, but what about your hotel outside the country? Is there any way to stream live TV or on demand there from back home? I have tried Comcast provider authentication in iPad apps in one US time zone, but still can only get the local for live, and VPN didn’t help. Maybe Hulu is the way to go.

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to...de-us-3672619/
https://www.hulu.com/live-tv

I have a few suggestions. A) Don't use a major VPN company. I think streaming companies block many of their IPs to prevent people from doing what you're trying to do. As DYKWIA said, you're better off to have a VPN at your house for this (I'd also recommend OpenVPN). Then stream appears to come from same IP as your home to the streaming company. B) Some streaming apps also use your devices reported location (from GPS, or estimated location based on nearby MACs) to determine if you're eligible for their content. Workaround is to turn off location services for streaming apps.

boerne May 6, 2019 4:20 pm

I currently use Witopia and I am very happy. When we had a few trips to China scheduled we used Golden Frog to bypass the great firewall. I am not sure who is the current best VPN for China. I can pick my country server with Witopia and it works on all my devices.

worldwidedreamer May 13, 2019 11:43 am

I use an Asus router which makes it super easy to set-up a home VPN. A side benefit is that Hulu blocks my iPad if away for more than 30 days...the VPN solves this problem.

kennycrudup May 14, 2019 6:16 pm

If you're tech savvy, consider using Wireguard over OpenVPN: the performance is so much better. I run both from home, and only defer to OpenVPN if the packet loss is too high (WG uses UDP). What is nice about OpenVPN is I run it on 443 too to get past those public firewalls that don't open up 1194.

tmiw May 14, 2019 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by kennycrudup (Post 31102119)
If you're tech savvy, consider using Wireguard over OpenVPN: the performance is so much better. I run both from home, and only defer to OpenVPN if the packet loss is too high (WG uses UDP). What is nice about OpenVPN is I run it on 443 too to get past those public firewalls that don't open up 1194.

IIRC, it's possible for OpenVPN to use UDP too. (The software itself, not necessarily whatever VPN service you're using.)

Also, I wonder how well using 443 will work over time since I have run into software that hijacks HTTPS before (for instance, whatever's running on my work-issued laptop when I'm not connected to the corporate network via VPN or otherwise).

PackingIt May 14, 2019 10:59 pm

A personal VPN is not a bad thing, but when it comes to using it for streaming keep in mind the limited upstream bandwidth of most broadband internet plans.

LondonElite May 14, 2019 11:16 pm

I use Express VPN to live stream from my US cable provider in Germany, no problems.

kennycrudup May 15, 2019 6:16 am


Originally Posted by tmiw (Post 31102508)
IIRC, it's possible for OpenVPN to use UDP too.

True, and I actually have OpenVPN running on UDP/TCP 1194 and UDP/TCP 443. The optimal config for OpenVPN is UDP/1194, but this way, I keep my options open (TCP for connections that are spotty and/or tend to drop UDP packets- when I had Cricket Wireless I had horrible thruput via UDP, for example).


Also, I wonder how well using 443 will work over time since I have run into software that hijacks HTTPS
I've had that too, and unless it's a captive portal setup (which means you should have authenticated first anyway), it's been my experience that if the MitM doesn't understand the traffic, it passes it on unmolested.

RoxyMountain May 15, 2019 6:30 am

I use ExpressVPN to stream my US content (YoutubeTV) when in Europe and UK content when I am in the U.S. (iPlayer and Eurosport). Quality is very good. One thing that does not work is Netflix. They must be doing some magic.

LondonElite May 15, 2019 6:33 am


Originally Posted by RoxyMountain (Post 31103428)
I use ExpressVPN to stream my US content (YoutubeTV) when in Europe and UK content when I am in the U.S. (iPlayer and Eurosport). Quality is very good. One thing that does not work is Netflix. They must be doing some magic.

Interesting. Netflix should work, speak to E-VPN and they'll tell you to connect to a different server in the country. The Washington DC server won't let me load up FlyerTalk!. What refuses to work is Amazon Prime, they detect VPNs.

RoxyMountain May 15, 2019 7:14 am


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 31103437)
Interesting. Netflix should work, speak to E-VPN and they'll tell you to connect to a different server in the country. The Washington DC server won't let me load up FlyerTalk!. What refuses to work is Amazon Prime, they detect VPNs.

I have not tried Netflix recently as I gave up after no luck a year ago. Will try again on my next trip over. Was in Germany all last week and Google TV worked great. Now I am back in the states watching Eurosport as I write this. ^


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