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LAXlocal May 21, 2019 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by sixpaq (Post 31122459)
I was able to provision a Three HK prepaid roaming eSIM on a Google Pixel 3a without any issues.

Three's roaming plan is 10 days at 500MB/day, throttled to 128kbps after you hit the daily quota. You can buy it directly from Three's web site for HKD $138 (USD $17.58).
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Can you also get a Sim card with the same plan ?
And what is the name of the plan ?

My Motorola E5 does not have eSim

Thanks for the info

TheMadBrewer May 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Just got back for a 16 day European trip (Germany and Czechia) and my Ubigi eSim worked fine.

I was at 2.9 of my 3GB when I checked just before getting on my flight home at AMS.

I did have a bit of an issue that I don't think was Ubigi related -- I have the Boingo WiFi app on my phone. The WiFi symbol showed in the status bar when in my hotel room but I wasn't really connected -- however the phone that I was, so some apps that were set to up/download on WiFi only thought WiFi was connected and did their stuff and I burned up 700MB on Ubigi I didn't really need to. I deleted the Boingo app and things were fine after that. Boingo was somehow interfering with the hotel WiFi login.

I received (and made) calls and texts on my US T-Mobile SIM just fine.

PackingIt May 25, 2019 3:06 pm

When traveling internationally and using a data-only (e)SIM and receiving an incoming call from home (via one’s main SIM), if I answer I’ll assume that will be considered international roaming. But what if I reject the call? I am still getting my head around the whole idea of a data only SIM combined with primary SIM.

TheMadBrewer May 25, 2019 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by PackingIt (Post 31138363)
When traveling internationally and using a data-only (e)SIM and receiving an incoming call from home (via one’s main SIM), if I answer I’ll assume that will be considered international roaming. But what if I reject the call? I am still getting my head around the whole idea of a data only SIM combined with primary SIM.

I don't think the data-only eSIM will effect things -- whatever your main carrier did before, they probably will do with a secondary data only eSIM. For T-Mobile, if I let a call go to voice mail (that is, I don't answer) and they leave a message, I get charged for a 1 minute call (25 cents). These always come during my "Do Not Disturb" hours so I don't have a chance to reject them. Robo calls that hang up when connected to my voice mail don't seem to cause a charge.

PackingIt May 26, 2019 12:38 pm

Thanks for the info. My understanding of the iPhone is that there is no way to enable airplane mode for just the primary SIM. So how does one prevent these incoming calls that result in a charge?



Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer (Post 31138978)
I don't think the data-only eSIM will effect things -- whatever your main carrier did before, they probably will do with a secondary data only eSIM. For T-Mobile, if I let a call go to voice mail (that is, I don't answer) and they leave a message, I get charged for a 1 minute call (25 cents). These always come during my "Do Not Disturb" hours so I don't have a chance to reject them. Robo calls that hang up when connected to my voice mail don't seem to cause a charge.


PackingIt May 26, 2019 1:09 pm

To possibly answer my own question, could I set up my primary SIM to forward all calls to my Google Voice number?



Originally Posted by PackingIt (Post 31140457)
Thanks for the info. My understanding of the iPhone is that there is no way to enable airplane mode for just the primary SIM. So how does one prevent these incoming calls that result in a charge?





TheMadBrewer May 26, 2019 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by PackingIt (Post 31140457)
Thanks for the info. My understanding of the iPhone is that there is no way to enable airplane mode for just the primary SIM. So how does one prevent these incoming calls that result in a charge?

I think if the phone is off or in airplane mode there isn't a charge. The charges I got were when the phone was on and in Do Not Disturb mode and the caller left a voice mail. The caller disconnected when the voice mail kicked in (as do most spam calls) then I wasn't charged. The few times I declined a call I didn't get charged either.

The forwarding thing won't work for me -- I want to receive calls from those on my favorites list (family, important clients) even in the middle of the night.

PackingIt May 26, 2019 2:48 pm

Can you clarify your comment about forwarding not working for you? Even for calls coming in via the GV app (using VOIP), it respects the iOS DND allow list.



Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer (Post 31140680)
I think if the phone is off or in airplane mode there isn't a charge. The charges I got were when the phone was on and in Do Not Disturb mode and the caller left a voice mail. The caller disconnected when the voice mail kicked in (as do most spam calls) then I wasn't charged. The few times I declined a call I didn't get charged either.

The forwarding thing won't work for me -- I want to receive calls from those on my favorites list (family, important clients) even in the middle of the night.


TheMadBrewer May 26, 2019 11:05 pm


Originally Posted by PackingIt (Post 31140713)
Can you clarify your comment about forwarding not working for you? Even for calls coming in via the GV app (using VOIP), it respects the iOS DND allow list.

My bad, I didn't quote properly. You said you could avoid charges for unwanted calls by all forwarding calls to your Google Voice number. I was saying that wouldn't work for me because I need to receive calls on my primary number (the purpose for me of the dual sim feature). Unfortunately that means I get unwanted calls that might incur a charge from T-Mobile. It wasn't about something technically not working.

PackingIt May 26, 2019 11:17 pm

I must certainly not be understanding. To avoid the charge of calls that go to your TMo voicemail, why can't you forward all calls to GV, and then you are using purely data to receive calls and voicemail via GV. Nothing then goes to the primary SIMs voicemail.



Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer (Post 31141625)
My bad, I didn't quote properly. You said you could avoid charges for unwanted calls by all forwarding calls to your Google Voice number. I was saying that wouldn't work for me because I need to receive calls on my primary number (the purpose for me of the dual sim feature). Unfortunately that means I get unwanted calls that might incur a charge from T-Mobile. It wasn't about something technically not working.


TheMadBrewer May 26, 2019 11:31 pm


Originally Posted by PackingIt (Post 31141641)
I must certainly not be understanding. To avoid the charge of calls that go to your TMo voicemail, why can't you forward all calls to GV, and then you are using purely data to receive calls and voicemail via GV. Nothing then goes to the primary SIMs voicemail.

I don't use Google Voice so I guess I don't know how it works. I can still answer a call if it is call I want, even though the number has been forwarded to GV?

PackingIt May 26, 2019 11:36 pm

Apologies - I thought you were already familiar with GV. There are different ways to use it. One way is via purely VOIP. So you forward your main number to your GV number. Calls then go to the GV mobile app, calls and messages and voicemail all via VOIP. That way you're only using the data from your data sim.



Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer (Post 31141662)
I don't use Google Voice so I guess I don't know how it works. I can still answer a call if it is call I want, even though the number has been forwarded to GV?


powerlifter Jun 4, 2019 8:10 am

Has anyone figured out why T-mobile has not allowed post-paid accounts use of the e-sim? If pre-pay has it why not postpaid. Any thoughts?

gfunkdave Jun 4, 2019 11:09 am


Originally Posted by powerlifter (Post 31169162)
Has anyone figured out why T-mobile has not allowed post-paid accounts use of the e-sim? If pre-pay has it why not postpaid. Any thoughts?

You can do it, there are lots of how-tos out there. Including in this thread I think.

powerlifter Jun 7, 2019 9:58 am

Well, I took gfunkdave advice and called T-mobile to get a sim swap. I got an idiot on the phone. I told her to send me to tech support to get the sim swap as she did not understand what a sim swap was. Instead, she sent me to a supervisor. We had a very long talk. she told me that they will never use esim for a post-paid account. You are to use the e-sim with a foreign carrier. She also stated that she receives several calls a week when are they going to esim for post-paid accounts. When I got through with her I sent a live chat message for a sim swap. The rep there said they no longer do sim swap with just an EID number. I think they have noted my account so I can not ask for a sim swap. Of course, The foreign carrier I use does not have esim. So I am just outta luck.


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