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cblaisd Sep 27, 2018 8:40 pm

Hate the new gmail format
 
Well, just like they did with Google Maps a few years ago, Gmail's interface has changed to something that conveys far less information and is far more annoying.

And the option on my settings/gear icon no longer has the "switch back to classic" view.

Sigh.

tmiw Sep 27, 2018 10:49 pm

It took a bit of getting used to but it seems okay to me now. The biggest thing I had trouble with was the placement of the buttons that appear when you have a message open; I was clicking on the wrong ones for a while.

One positive thing about the move: it seems to have some sort of autocomplete support while typing messages now.

daniellam Sep 27, 2018 11:41 pm

Regardless of the interface GMAIL uses, I've forwarded all my personal gmail e-mails to my secondary e-mail at outlook.com. It's a much better interface IMHO.

At work, we use G Suite for Business and most staff almost never use the Gmail interface. Almost everybody uses Outlook as their mail client.

We hate gmail so much that we are switching to Office 365 e-mail. Now I can finally accept meeting invitations within the Outlook mail client (which is designed to work with Office 365/Exchange in the first place) and have it update my calendar!

TheMadBrewer Sep 28, 2018 6:53 am

Now that I am an old fart I hate change :)

I had my multiple inboxes setup exactly how I wanted them and now they don't work properly.

Excuse me -- something important I have to go do -- "Hey you kid, get off of my lawn!" :)

kcreedy Sep 28, 2018 12:06 pm

Hate the new Gmail
 
I think you can reverse it by going to settings and clicking on restore the old format. I did it on both my gmail accounts as well as my daughter's. It was the first time in her adult life that I knew more than she did about computers. I felt chuffed!

antichef Sep 28, 2018 1:12 pm

I am told the reverse method you describe only works for so many days after the implementation. According to my friend (who raised this with me today) this is what they were doing and the option has now gone away resulting in them being stuck with the new format.

I checked their settings and there is no "restore old format". An online search shows that by October the revert to previous will be gone for everyone - so enjoy it whilst you can!

kcreedy Sep 28, 2018 1:31 pm

Damn. I ate the new format too

antichef Sep 28, 2018 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by kcreedy (Post 30257649)
Damn. I ate the new format too

I am sure that is just a spellin mistak ;)

MrTemporal Sep 28, 2018 1:50 pm

The format is fine. But, it seems slow to me. I delete an email and the thing can take 3 to 20 seconds to refresh the screen.

Dodge DeBoulet Sep 28, 2018 3:26 pm

I very much like the fact that you can now pin the calendar pane to the right side. I was using the Outlook plugin previously but that is seriously f'ed.

cblaisd Sep 28, 2018 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by daniellam (Post 30255254)
Regardless of the interface GMAIL uses, I've forwarded all my personal gmail e-mails to my secondary e-mail at outlook.com. It's a much better interface IMHO.

Outlook is the one program I hate even more. I use Time and Chaos as my calendar program and Pegasus Mail for my pop3 mail -- and have used both since the mid-'90s.

I won't even start on all the ways that I despise Outlook's behavior (at least still with the new gmail, I can still see the actual email address instead of having Outlook strip that out so many times so that one can't copy and paste it).


Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer (Post 30256038)
Now that I am an old fart I hate change :)

I had my multiple inboxes setup exactly how I wanted them and now they don't work properly.

+1


Originally Posted by antichef (Post 30257569)
...there is no "restore old format". An online search shows that by October the revert to previous will be gone for everyone - so enjoy it whilst you can!

I wish I could, but no restore for me either.


Originally Posted by MrTemporal (Post 30257743)
The format is fine. But, it seems slow to me. I delete an email and the thing can take 3 to 20 seconds to refresh the screen.

Yes. Very tempted to switch the the html version of gmail.

CPRich Sep 30, 2018 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 30259167)
I won't even start on all the ways that I despise Outlook's behavior (at least still with the new gmail, I can still see the actual email address instead of having Outlook strip that out so many times so that one can't copy and paste it).

Email address shows right next to the sender's name for me


Amazon.com <[email protected]>
Fri 9/28, 3:00 PM
From, To, CC, etc.

cblaisd Sep 30, 2018 11:12 pm

The ones I receive from within the organization don't show the email address, just the name. And the same is true for many outside the organization.

ryandelmundo Oct 10, 2018 6:34 pm

Agreed, I think the new Gmail is slower. Even worse is what they did to Google Flights. It's three clicks now to select a one-way instead of the one click before. Wonder why they made it more complicated.....only Google knows....and they know everything...

yyznomad Oct 10, 2018 8:45 pm

+1 on not liking the new gmail

linsj Oct 11, 2018 7:10 am

+2 on not liking the new Gmail. Fortunately, I have only one email there for a specific job but need to leave it on the web instead of downloading to my computer.

gfunkdave Oct 11, 2018 9:12 am

What is this new Gmail format? Mine hasn't changed recently.

Dodge DeBoulet Oct 11, 2018 10:49 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 30303715)
What is this new Gmail format? Mine hasn't changed recently.

The overhaul that occurred back in the April/May timeframe. Animated envelope on launch, folder list slides in from the left, Calendar/Keep/Tasks can be pinned to the right side of the window.

gfunkdave Oct 11, 2018 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by Dodge DeBoulet (Post 30304063)
The overhaul that occurred back in the April/May timeframe. Animated envelope on launch, folder list slides in from the left, Calendar/Keep/Tasks can be pinned to the right side of the window.

Oh. I fail to see a problem with it. I like how the Trash and Archive buttons show on each row when you mouse over. Though, I usually use the keyboard shortcuts so I don't use the buttons much.

rickg523 Oct 11, 2018 8:00 pm

Based on their track record, Google has the worst product/user interface improvement team in the business. Did they hire the crack "New Coke" team?

678flyer Oct 13, 2018 2:24 am

Don't like it as well. Too slow.

ShopAround Oct 15, 2018 10:27 am

Way too slow. I wish they hadn't removed the option to revert to classic Gmail. The new version is awful.

gfunkdave Oct 15, 2018 12:14 pm

Where exactly is this slowness people are complaining about? When you go to gmail.com, you wait a few seconds for it to load. It always did that. Then it behaves as always. What's slow?

I think people just want to complain about change.

Need Oct 16, 2018 7:17 am

It is probably the same speed of loading. But before you get the old URL (whichever site you were on) to stare at while it was loading. Now you get to stare at the animation of the Gmail while it loads. I wonder if they do this in preparation of putting in ads for you to watch while it loads. Instead of the Gmail envelope, it would be a picture of Starbucks coffee filling up... "Start your morning with a fresh cup of Pumpkin Spiced Starbucks Coffee. Click the Icon for $1 Coupon!"

cblaisd Oct 16, 2018 7:19 am

Eleven seconds to load the new and improved [sic] gmail.

ShopAround Oct 17, 2018 9:31 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 30318010)
Where exactly is this slowness people are complaining about? When you go to gmail.com, you wait a few seconds for it to load. It always did that. Then it behaves as always. What's slow?

One thing I've noticed that's much slower is deleting an email. I have a specific gmail account I use for anything mailing-list related and sometimes there will be multiple emails in the in box that I know I can delete without reading. I click to select them, then on the trash button. And then I wait. It's probably only five seconds (sometimes it's longer) for an action that used to be immediate. Same with moving an email to a folder, it just takes longer than it used to.

I'm also having issues with gmail not logging me in. I click next after entering my password (which auto-populates on my laptop) and instead of loading the emails, it redirects back to the main log in page. It's happening frequently and is very annoying.

HDQDD Oct 17, 2018 10:06 am

The "new" format really isn't much different than the old format IMO. Both work fine for me, but I do like the improvements in the "new" format.


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 30320640)
Eleven seconds to load the new and improved [sic] gmail.

Perhaps time for an upgrade. Using Firefox on last years Macbook pro it takes <1s.

gfunkdave Oct 17, 2018 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by ShopAround (Post 30324836)
One thing I've noticed that's much slower is deleting an email. I have a specific gmail account I use for anything mailing-list related and sometimes there will be multiple emails in the in box that I know I can delete without reading. I click to select them, then on the trash button. And then I wait. It's probably only five seconds (sometimes it's longer) for an action that used to be immediate. Same with moving an email to a folder, it just takes longer than it used to.

I'm also having issues with gmail not logging me in. I click next after entering my password (which auto-populates on my laptop) and instead of loading the emails, it redirects back to the main log in page. It's happening frequently and is very annoying.

These are probably badly behaved extensions on your browser or something. I just hit x # to delete an email and it's instant, same as cliciking the little popup trash can.

No login issues here either. Check your extensions. If that's not it, try clearing your cookies.

TWA884 Oct 17, 2018 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 30318010)
I think people just want to complain about change.


Originally Posted by HDQDD (Post 30324954)
The "new" format really isn't much different than the old format IMO. Both work fine for me, but I do like the improvements in the "new" format.

There is one feature that I regularly used in the previous version of Gmail which is missing from the new one.

In the old version, when I hovered over an email address, the pop-up box had a link to search for all the emails which I received from that address. I have yet to find that functionality in the new Gmail. Now, I have to copy the email address and paste it in the "Search Mail" box when looking for other emails which I received from that address.

Dodge DeBoulet Oct 17, 2018 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 30326566)
There is one feature that I regularly used in the previous version of Gmail which is missing from the new one.

In the old version, when I hovered over an email address, the pop-up box had a link to search for all the emails which I received from that address. I have yet to find that functionality in the new Gmail. Now, I have to copy the email address and paste it in the "Search Mail" box when looking for other emails which I received from that address.

You can check the checkbox for that email, click on the three vertical dots on the toolbar below the search field, and choose Filter messages like these. From that point you can either create a filter rule or just execute a simple search.

gengar Oct 17, 2018 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by ShopAround (Post 30324836)
One thing I've noticed that's much slower is deleting an email.

Having the same issue under FF. Literally a couple seconds just to delete an e-mail. One of my other accounts is still on the old format, and deleting is instantaneous as you mentioned.

Not really a big deal as I was already switching away from gmail. The new interface isn't terrible but it's probably a good time to permanently move.


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 30318010)
I think people just want to complain about change.

Or maybe, just maybe you shouldn't assume the multiple FT'ers reporting the issue are lying about it. :rolleyes:

TWA884 Oct 17, 2018 11:20 pm


Originally Posted by Dodge DeBoulet (Post 30327036)
You can check the checkbox for that email, click on the three vertical dots on the toolbar below the search field, and choose Filter messages like these. From that point you can either create a filter rule or just execute a simple search.

Thanks. It's a few extra clicks compared to the old way, but still quicker than manually searching for additional emails from the same sender.

cblaisd Oct 19, 2018 1:07 pm

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I have two different gmail accounts opened in two different tabs. Both are set at "compact" display but one is way more compact than the other.

No idea how to get the first one to look like the second.

gengar Oct 19, 2018 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 30333660)
I have two different gmail accounts opened in two different tabs. Both are set at "compact" display but one is way more compact than the other.

No idea how to get the first one to look like the second.

It's a little hard to tell, but I think the only difference is that you have the "main menu" open? The toggle is the three horizontal bars at upper left.

cblaisd Oct 19, 2018 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by gengar (Post 30334524)
It's a little hard to tell, but I think the only difference is that you have the "main menu" open? The toggle is the three horizontal bars at upper left.

Oh, thank you!

Utterly unintuitive, huh?

I continue to not understand why there was such a "need" for an "up"grade. Sigh.

david55 Oct 19, 2018 9:29 pm

Mine switched over this morning w/o the " switch back to classic" tab. I think I am stuck with the new. What I don't like about it is that the new not only looks heavier and brighter but it looks cartoonish. The classic was more svelte and ....well... classic.

daniellam Oct 20, 2018 12:28 am

We just switch from G Suite to Office 365 today and not looking back!

moondog Oct 20, 2018 12:56 am

I am no fan of the new Gmail, but now I am semi comfortable with it. I really wish Google would invest a little effort Calendar UI, search in particular is quite old school.

DYKWIA Oct 20, 2018 4:57 am


Originally Posted by HDQDD (Post 30324954)
Perhaps time for an upgrade. Using Firefox on last years Macbook pro it takes <1s.

Chrome took about 2 seconds when I just tried it on my new iMac. Fast enough for me :)

aquamarinesteph Oct 24, 2018 12:40 am

I hate the new Gmail interface b/c it doesn't offer enough contrast. They rolled out what they call a 'high contrast' option, but that does not fix the issue for me unfortunately.


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