TMO New Unlimited Data Program
 

What? 1 plan???
$40 per line for 4 lines = total of $160 a month for unlimited data.

What about existing people? I have $100 for 4 lines. 2GB each. That's all I need. Why would I want to pay another 60% to get data that I never use?

Still need to read up how it affects existing customers that are in my boat.

They better grandfather or they're going to lose a lot of people.

Ummm... wouldn't it be easier to just go to the website I referenced and review the material directly, from the source, rather than speculating on FT? :confused:

Regards

unfortunately, only 2G tethering (paid addon $15 for 5GB) and binge-on is enabled (throttled data to 1.5mbps when watching videos, can be disabled by paying $25/line/month)

net neutrality concerns woot

To my knowledge, almost all cell phone providers allow people to maintain their current plans even when they introduce new ones. I don't see any reason this would be different. Most news articles being published on this change are reporting that existing customers can maintain their current plans.

I will say, for an AT&T customer that has been looking very lovingly at Tmobile and seriously considering moving my business to them, this announcement effectively kills that. This plan would raise my costs by about $30 a month AND I'd lose LTE tethering, which I have on AT&T.

This could turn out to be a rare misstep for Tmobile. I'm just not sure that many people actually need/want unlimited data. My wife and I certainly don't. We generally use less than 3GB per month (on average)

Regards

If you watch the video on the website, you will be allowed to retain an existing plan. I intend to do that as I just don't need unlimited data in the U.S. and never hit my data cap on the $50 plan.
https://explore.t-mobile.com/t-mobil...LRTJFSULP95838

edited to add: Here's a blog that covers all the details plus pricing:
http://phandroid.com/2016/08/18/t-mo...nlimited-data/

I'm paying $50 for 3 GB, data stash and high-speed tethering.

I strain to even hit my data stash with tethering so no way I'm going to pay $70 for 2G tethering.

But typically, carriers push people into new plans, like when you upgrade or they take away features.

What if they only offered unlimited international data roaming on the One plans and took it away from Simple Choice?

:eek:uch! I have 10 or 11 lines on my account. This would more than double my bill. None of the lines go over our current 2gb limit.

I had prepaid before at $30 and went to the $50 plan solely for the international data. Not sure I'd make the jump to $70 for that. I'm out of the U.S. about 60 days a year, but could survive on wi-fi if they did something like that. It's convenient to have that data available, but not sure it would be worth $480 a year more compared to $240 a year when I first made the change.

I just added a blog link to my post above which indicates that new TMobile users won't have a choice on plans.

isn't project fi cheaper for you? (well you get 3GB plus overage at $50... versus 2GB+throttle at $50 but no overage)

Can't say I've really looked at that. I mainly use the international data when I'm on trains or buses between cities and those trips can be up to 4-5 hours long. I've had 4G in some places (Amsterdam comes to mind) and 3G in others, so don't think it's always capped at 2G. Other than that, when I'm on foot mostly a quick check of e-mail or a mapping app.

When I was at OzFest in Surfers Paradise in May, I uploaded over 200 photos via TMobile's partner there as the hotel wi-fi (a Hilton) was useless. That took a lot of data. I took most of my photos with the cell phone just to get them on-line same-day.

At home, though, I am a big data user for music. I do 4 miles walks pretty regularly and the free streaming music is probably the biggest feature I use in the U.S. Even at airports, when I'm at the gate or on board waiting for departure, I probably use 30-45 mins of data for various reasons.

When you add all that up, I suspect I'm well over 3G.

Music streaming uses significantly less data when compared to video.

There is a stat on your T-Mobile account which shows you total network data used as opposed to what is counted against your monthly quota.

You uploaded 200 photos at 128kbps?

Anyways Project Fi is probably meant to support a small number of users compared to regular plans or why else require specific Nexus phones to activate?

2G? Non-starter.


I'm on a SimpleChoice 10GB per line plan (2 lines) and am staying right where I am right now thank you very much. Neither line does video (maybe a YouTube clip or 2 per month) but no need for the BingeOn stuff.

For me, it's all about tethering. I move around alot with my laptop and frankly use the laptop for things that nowadays could be done with apps or a phone or a data-plan enabled tablet. But, I'm sticking with the laptop. Once you start talking slow data speeds, caps or throttling tethering, you've lost me.

I don't reach my 10GB limit per month (even while tethering)
AND
I don't use the phone as my home internet connection.

+1

Sorry Mr. Legere, I'm staying with Simple Choice. If I read the charts right (and, I did it in a hurry), I might (emphasis on might) be paying the same amount with my 10GB per line available for tethering SimpleChoice plan.

So the only new plan will be this one?

That will seriously cut into how many people I persuade to switch over.

I've moved a bunch of people (and gotten one referral credit, but whatever). I seem to be the guy people ask what to do on this front, and I really like T-Mobile, but in large part, it's about the low price for families (also the int'l roaming).

Think my connection there was at 3G as I thought it was pretty fast compared to some other countries I've been in. Each photo is around 1MB.

I tether quite often. I will stick with the current 6 GB plan. Does that mean tethering will be the same as it has been for me, and not change to the new tethering plan? The T-Mobile lwebsite is not accessible to me. Does anyone know?

AFAIK as long as you're on your old(current) plan it should work exactly how it's been working. Only when you change(either by choice or T-Mobile deciding for you) should the behavior change.

Will one be able to add lines to an existing "limited data" plan or will that require :one of the new plans for either the new line or all lines?

Maybe for families that use large amounts of data. When I was looking for a family plan, I ended up at Vz, and this only makes it worse. I'm paying $93/mo for 3 lines today ($105 without corp. discount), this would be $140 with TMo (who discontinued corp discounts)

From WSJ: In the new plan, a family with four phones would pay $160 a month. T-Mobile said its most popular family package previously offered four lines for $120 a month with speeds slowed after six gigabytes of use per device. The new plan will be available Sept. 6. Existing T-Mobile customers can keep their current plans.

I have four lines, 2.5 GB/line, plus an iPad, and the bill is about $124/month including taxes. Last month I had some overseas voice minutes, so it was $133.

As best I can tell, save for Fi, this is the cheapest option.

This. At least with Simple Choice, it didn't cost extra money to disable Binge On.

Ironically AT&T and Verizon now have lower cost base plans than T-Mobile: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/com...base_postpaid/

The negative press about this new plan is huge. I suspect they will back down from it before September.

Some other TMob executive was quoted as saying the Simple Choice plans would continue to be available, for new customers too.

Otherwise, they can't have the price of entry be the One plan at $70 a month. They would turn away a lot of customers who would get by fine on 1 or 2 GB of mobile data.

They'd never get me to switch with this new sole option.

Glad to hear they're rethinking it.

How on earth could a company decide to move to only one, new, more expensive option in the face of competition?

These guys seem to always push in the other direction: lower fees, more data, data that doesn't count, help with getting out of contracts. This is a complete 180.

They think unlimited data is king

But they built their reputation on low price being king.

Here's an article with more info. Apparently they're still reserving the right to get rid of those plans at some undefined point in the future. The article also doesn't explicitly mention the 10GB plan (only the 6 and 2GB ones) but it sounds like that's probably sticking around too.

Personally I'm sticking with my 6GB plan because I do use tethering.

Well as soon as they get rid of the lower pricing I'll switch back to att. I'll go with whichever carrier that offers me the lowest cost that meets my needs. I don't need more than 2GB per line.

Same for me, except I also need the int'l roaming.

Anyone know if you to AT&T with your own equipment, so you still have to do a 2-year contract?

There is no service contract on AT&T anymore. There is only equipment payment plan if you do not own the phone. But Int'l roaming is expansive though except for Mexico which is free. :p

If they make the $70 One plan the price of entry into TMob postpaid, they will lose a lot of customers.

It will be hard to walk away from the international data roaming but I'll do it unless they make it high-speed roaming like they did in July and August, but with tethering at 2G speeds, it would be kind of pointless too.

We're all pretty sure here that if you are an existing customer, you'll be grandfathered in. This is only for new potential customers, and it sounds like there is already some back-pedaling.

So they shouldn't lose customers, just slow down the rate of accumulating new customers.

The old family plan is a better deal, at least for some of us.

The "unlimited" doesn't include includes a very limited amount of tethering, and includes lower bitrate video. I'm on the old promotional 4x 10GB for $120/month, and the new "unlimited" is a hugely worse deal for me.

Fortunately, I can keep the plan until my son is old enough to need his own line, which is probably 3-4 years off at the earliest -- right now we've got 4 lines because it was literally cheaper to get this than the old plan we had was going to be with 3 -- the 4th line is a spare until my daughter needs one.

Odds are there will be yet another batch of new plans long before then.

I stopped by my local T-Mobile store yesterday and they assured me I could keep my Simple Choice plan ($60 with 3 GB of data). It is more than enough for me. I don't need to give them another 10.00 a month for something I won't use.

I'm in total agreement. For the past 10 years we've had a family plan with 4-lines, currently including 3 lines each with 2.5.gb of data, 1 with unlimited data, calling abroad from USA (TMO stateside international promo for $10/account), and 2 cellular data for iPads with limited of 200 mb/month. Total bill with tax $150.

I'm waiting for the dust to clear before calling to verify we can maintain existing plans - primary concern is the 4th line with unlimited data, which currently costs an additional $30/month. I'm assuming no change although TMO in their formal announcement 'reserved the right' to eliminate grandfathered plans.......

The added advantage of this grandfathered plan is the ability to add a 5th, 6th or 7th line for additional $10/month. Again not sure how they'll treat this should the need arise.

Then don't switch. :)

I just browsed the site and they said pretty clearly they aren't making anybody switch plans. If you like your plan, you can keep it. :D In fact, for the most part they will continue to sell all their existing plans except for simple choice unlimited.

-David

I have no plans to switch. My main c:)ncern was what happens if I have to add another line. In the past I'd had problems in making certain changes to my account after the plan I was on was no longer current. In this case it seems they have clarified that the current plans are not going away.

This situation feels similar to the healthcare debate to me.

Insurers/governments say: One price for all! All you need! No matter how much you need!

or T-Mobile says: One price for all the data you can use!

Then the low-utilization crowd (healthcare: young and healthy; cell users: low data consumers) say: Why should I pay more so he can get healthcare/data?

You could argue that it works in healthcare since it's an insurance program (not trying to provoke a debate - just trying to point on the comparison to cell providers).

But can you argue that spreading risks and costs among cell users is the right thing to do?

I don't see it in the cell world.

Which may be why it appears to be failing already.