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LIH Prem Oct 2, 2014 3:40 am

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CatJo Oct 2, 2014 5:15 am

The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus do indeed draw 2A if the charger is capable of providing it (they'll slow down to 1A and even lower as they get near 100% charged) so yes, they'll charge faster if you use the iPad charger (or other similar one capable of providing >1A).

The previous iPhones do not draw more than 1A so it's no faster to use an iPad charger.

arjunrc Oct 2, 2014 5:44 am

Oh this is classic. Made my morning.



Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 23614097)


chuichi Oct 2, 2014 6:21 am


Originally Posted by Need (Post 23573822)
Okay I finally made it to the Apple store to look at the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus in person. The 6 looks so small. My wife has the 5s and I expected the 6 to look a bit bigger but it is really barely bigger than the 5s. The 6 Plus is exactly the same size as I expected and it is pretty much identical to my Note 2.

I don't think I could downsized to the 6. It is just too small. Now with the reports of the 6 plus bending, I am not so sure about getting 6 plus. I put my Note 2 in the front jeans pocket. Maybe I should stay with the Android phone and wait for the new iPad Mini to be announced in October.

Have you thought about getting the Note4? That's coming out soon!

chuichi Oct 2, 2014 6:22 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 23614097)

Ooh I love this one!! :D

Dubai Stu Oct 2, 2014 6:26 am


Originally Posted by Firstclassfrank (Post 23608069)
I paid well over retail for my 6+ but honestly i dont care. This is the best phone ive every owned. The low light pics im taking now are breath taking.

Are pics going to be better than a 6? Isn't the stabilization feature (the only difference between the two cameras that I know of) going to be something that effects video v. stills?

Fredd Oct 3, 2014 5:59 pm

T-Mobile / USPS packaging follies
 
My new iPhone 6 Plus arrived via UPS yesterday. I followed T-Mobile's instructions to return my 5S (I bought the Jump package allowing me to trade it in), putting it in the bubble bag supplied and attaching the prepaid Merchandise Return Label (actually a USPS label). I took it to the post office, intending to buy some insurance - "You may purchase optional insurance from the Postal Service at your expense."

Surprise! Two postal clerks told me that one can't buy anything with this type of label. You can't insure it, you can't certify it, you can't do nuttin'.

I'd now be doubly furious I mailed it and it disappeared, so I bought an envelope, wrote the address on it along with "Apple Return" in two places, and packed the original bubble-bag inside. I got back in line, bought the insurance and postage and mailed it off.

Because I have the time, I called T-Mobile afterwards to let them know and they credited my account for the extra five bucks I spent on postage and envelope.

So far I like the phone. :)

wco81 Oct 3, 2014 6:51 pm

I played around with the Plus a bit at Best Buy this afternoon.

Looking at some web sites side by side with my 5S in landscape mode.

Easier to read but given the resolution differences, it doesn't display more text so it wouldn't save much scrolling.

I then looked at the same sites on my iPad Mini Retina.

I'd say the amount of content displayed is closer to the 5S than the iPad Retina Mini, in landscape mode.

LIH Prem Oct 4, 2014 12:54 am


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 23623633)
I played around with the Plus a bit at Best Buy this afternoon.

Looking at some web sites side by side with my 5S in landscape mode.

Easier to read but given the resolution differences, it doesn't display more text so it wouldn't save much scrolling.

I then looked at the same sites on my iPad Mini Retina.

I'd say the amount of content displayed is closer to the 5S than the iPad Retina Mini, in landscape mode.

ios8 has resolution and text size settings and a setting for the default mode of the display. Did you try any of those?

-David

wco81 Oct 4, 2014 9:22 am

In the settings app?

No must admit I didn't.

Maybe the advantage of the bigger screen for browsing is more apparent in portrait mode and the fact that you're less likely to have to zoom in on the Plus.

obscure2k Oct 4, 2014 9:27 am


Originally Posted by EDGARP (Post 23606650)
Who has flown with the 6 plus so far? Any regrets on getting the plus? I am thinking though some of the usability like mobile boarding passes, handling the phone while juggling a laptop case, a suitcase, coffee, breakfast..you know the stuff we have to deal with lately. Do you think you will be likely to drop it more?

What about working out with it, shorts pockets tend to be smaller than pants pockets.

Thanks

I flew from LAX to Italy this week. No problems at all. I think the phone is fantastic.

wco81 Oct 4, 2014 11:41 am

How about exercising with it?

milepig Oct 4, 2014 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 23626069)
How about exercising with it?

I guess you could, but it is very light. I doubt you'd see much gain. I recommend sticking with dumbells.

wco81 Oct 4, 2014 1:27 pm

Heh.:D

Considering the bending issue, not sure you want to put it on an arm strap, if your upper arm is long enough to accommodate it.

I've started using SPI belts (actually a knockoff that is suppose to be water/sweat resistant).

May also try something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ATIE5ZE/...=IF64H3K0NH65R

That pouch is 6 x 4 inches, which may be too big to have on your waist if you're doing some exercises which require bending your torso. That isn't big enough for the 6 Plus, supposedly they're going to come out with something slightly bigger.

I can get $310 gift card for my 5s but now I'm wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to keep it as a backup and for using at the gym, even if I do get a 6 Plus.

byrnesyliam Oct 4, 2014 4:32 pm

I'll be flying through dubai airport next Friday night and wondering if any stores in the airport will stock the iPhone 6plus. Anyone know the airport well enough to know which store might stock it?

LIH Prem Oct 5, 2014 2:25 am


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 23625538)
In the settings app?

It's in settings/display and brightness.

There's (I think they are new) controls for text size, which is a slider on it's own page and also a toggle for bold text. I have the bold text option enabled on my 6, it's much easier for my old eyes to read. I played with larger text size also, but didn't like that as much as just the bold text.

There's also a setting for "Display Zoom" on it's own page, you can choose "standard" or "zoomed", and it shows three different screens as examples of how they look in either mode, so you can compare. I tried that too, but for me, the best option was just bold text and standard mode on the 6.

Anyway if you get a chance, play with all those setting on the 6+ and then see what you think of it.

-David

Dubai Stu Oct 5, 2014 9:03 am


Originally Posted by byrnesyliam (Post 23627000)
I'll be flying through dubai airport next Friday night and wondering if any stores in the airport will stock the iPhone 6plus. Anyone know the airport well enough to know which store might stock it?

In the mide of Terminal One of DXB is the largest duty free you've probably seen. There is a substantial electronics department there. The iPhone is out in Dubai, but I'm not sure if a version not tied to service is out yet. Be sure to know the models that cover the LTE frequencies you want.

maortega15 Oct 5, 2014 3:56 pm

Would the Verizon iPhone 6/6 Plus be compatible with Smartone in Hong Kong? Also, does Smartone use TD-LTE bands? If so, since Verizon's version doesn't include TD-LTE bands on the phones, how much of a difference would I notice?

Thanks!

robroy90 Oct 6, 2014 6:41 pm

While I haven't personally confirmed this to be gospel, I am told that there is only one SKU for the 6 and one for the 6+ so they should be carrier agnostic.

josephstern Oct 6, 2014 10:46 pm

Got my T-Mo 6 that I ordered through Apple.

Popped in my AT&T SIM - all set and working fine.

I will say, this thing is a little big, and I really don't like the button on the side. I'm not sure I'll be as good with one-handed operation here. So far, I keep using two hands. I'm a little surprised that this is the small version. The Plus would be impossible for me.

kyden Oct 9, 2014 1:27 am

I got the 6 on launch day and within a week I dropped it and it shattered the screen. $130 to fix, but since Apple had not supplied the store with new screens as of yet, they replaced my phone. Now I need to find a stronger case. My spigen didn't hold up...at all.

Tchiowa Oct 9, 2014 1:39 am


Originally Posted by chuichi (Post 23614512)
Have you thought about getting the Note4? That's coming out soon!

I have a Note 3 and an S5. Both do everything the iPhone 6 does. And more. And they don't melt a hole through the desk when you update the operating system.

jackal Oct 10, 2014 10:40 am


Originally Posted by robroy90 (Post 23636638)
While I haven't personally confirmed this to be gospel, I am told that there is only one SKU for the 6 and one for the 6+ so they should be carrier agnostic.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/

Looks like there's two(ish) models (down from three on the 5/5s/5c). There's much more overlap in frequencies now, and AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile all use the same model now. The ATT/VZW/TMO version is missing just a few bands that the non-North-American (and Sprint) phones have:

Code:

38 (TD 2600)
39 (TD 1900)
40 (TD 2300)
41 (TD 2500)

All other bands are covered by the ATT/VZW/TMO. I haven't seen those particular frequency bands mentioned in my searches of all of the countries I've visited in the last few years, so I think it's pretty much now a world phone. (ETA: Upon further Googling, those bands are used by some carriers in China, Taiwan, and Japan.) (ETA again: I missed this helpful post earlier, which touches on these four bands--that poster claims they're used in a few other countries, too.)

The GSM and CDMA models appear to have different SKUs, which may represent a difference in the 2G/3G radios on the devices (the CDMA ones likely have both CDMA and GSM radios), but at least the LTE bands are now unified between them.


Originally Posted by Need (Post 23613178)
I think there was a test posted that using the iPad charger, the iPhone 6 was drawing 10W instead of 5W. Drawing twice the current would make it charge 2x faster.... unless of course the excess power turns into heat and then you phone would just blow up LOL. :D

My wife charge her iPhone 5s with her iPad charger all the time, but we didn't measure if it was charging faster...

While I haven't done any scientific testing, anecdotally, my iPhone 5 seems to charge quite a bit faster when I use a 1.5A+ charger. I've bought several off of Amazon (for much cheaper than the Apple ones) and have been quite satisfied with their performance.

msp3 Oct 12, 2014 3:17 am

Where would one unload an iPhone 6 that was nearly free because of all the iPhone 6 launch trade-in promos? Carrier is Sprint, and I'm content with my old iPhone 5 for the time being.

Sprint stuff is so hard to sell.

wco81 Oct 12, 2014 8:45 pm

If you're spending any length of time in New Zealand, you want a nice camera.

Probably nicer than any phone camera.

NZ along with Iceland are suppose to be among the most beautiful places in the world.

jackal Oct 12, 2014 9:22 pm


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 23667418)
If you're spending any length of time in New Zealand, you want a nice camera.

Probably nicer than any phone camera.

NZ along with Iceland are suppose to be among the most beautiful places in the world.

Good point. That said, I've happily relied on just my iPhone camera for extended travel in probably 20 countries over the last three years, and it's done quite fine for me. I'm not planning on selling any of my pictures to any calendar publishers...

jackal Oct 13, 2014 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 23671798)
If you aren't doing a discounted plan for paying for your device in full, you're typically paying $20-$25 per month in device reimbursement - even after you've fully reimbursed your carrier for the up-front subsidy on your device.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be on that plan at all, but just recognize that once you are eligible for the $199 upgrade, any more months on that plan mean you are paying the carrier for a subsidy reimbursement even though you've already fully repaid them.

So when you say that you're surprised that people are lining up to pay such a high price, realize that paying that high price upfront means you don't have the potential to pay the carrier extra at the other end of the contract.

Right, but as I said, are you referring to the BYOD discount ($15/mo on smaller plans, $25/mo on larger plans)? If so, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I would need to give up my unlimited data plan and change to a Mobile Share plan in order to receive a BYOD discount.

If I can keep my current plan and somehow still receive the BYOD discount, then what you say makes sense in my case.


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 23671798)
Further, in the case of AT&T, a new phone means a $36 activation fee if it's a subsidized phone. If you just pop your SIM in an unlocked, full price phone, this isn't an issue. Not sure what you do in your case without your SIM, but I suspect an AT&T store would give you a free SIM to replace your lost one.

I actually have my AT&T SIM, as I had put a local (Eircom/Meteor) SIM in the phone the day before it was stolen. Regardless, that's a non-issue, as AT&T corporate stores will happily give out a replacement SIM at no charge.


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 23671800)
Why not call one of the stores closest to your home and inquire when they are expecting shipments? They probably won't hold a phone for you, however, if you stop by right after they receive a delivery, you may just be able to buy one.

I tried that; the direct numbers to each Apple Store actually transfer to a central call center. The information they have about availability mirrors what is shown on store.apple.com. There's no way (that I can tell) to get in touch with someone at the store itself short of driving over there and talking to someone--which still isn't out of the question. I might try to pop in tomorrow morning and see or at least ask about upcoming shipments, what time they usually arrive, what time they typically start selling the devices, etc.

josephstern Oct 13, 2014 5:10 pm

Right - BYOD (I called it "paying for your device in full" since you could have gotten the device from the carrier).

I'm sure you know better than I would, but most people who are holding on to the unlimited data plan don't actually use more data than the standard plans allow these days. Plus, last I looked into it, the unlimited data grandfathered plans didn't allow tethering, which, for many of us, is an essential feature these days.

jackal Oct 13, 2014 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 23671975)
Right - BYOD (I called it "paying for your device in full" since you could have gotten the device from the carrier).

I'm sure you know better than I would, but most people who are holding on to the unlimited data plan don't actually use more data than the standard plans allow these days. Plus, last I looked into it, the unlimited data grandfathered plans didn't allow tethering, which, for many of us, is an essential feature these days.

I don't doubt you're right, but I use 5GB+ each month. (Yes, it is throttled after the 5GB mark.) And you're right about tethering, although work pays for a Mifi, so I'm covered there.

I do appreciate you trying to bring some alternative ideas to light, though (and I'm mildly tempted by the idea of buying the VZW/TMO model, as it would be SIM-unlocked out of the gate, making it easier to travel with), but paying almost $1K for an unlocked device is a bit beyond what I'm willing to part with.

josephstern Oct 13, 2014 5:29 pm

I really wanted the T-Mobile plan, which has unlimited data in theory, but slow after a tier that you pay for. In this case, for you, 5 GB is $70/month. But then you get some free international roaming, which is slow, but could be nice. And tethering works AFAIK, on the US service.

Another important note here: you said you switched your SIM on your old phone. That won't work on a new subsidized one from AT&T for two years, and after two years, you'll still need their mysterious blessing.

wco81 Oct 13, 2014 5:47 pm

Seems like the Straight Talk deal is better. Unlimited voice, text and 3 GB of LTE data (and throttled after) for $45 on AT&T or T-Mobile. $495 for the year.

I'm paying $59 for 2 GB of data Mobile Share on a BYOD plan with Premier discount. If I go over 2 GB, overage charges hit me.

pseudoswede Oct 13, 2014 5:50 pm

If you can do without voice minutes (or use VOIP), T-Mobile/Wal-Mart has a plan with 100 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of data for $30/mo.

jackal Oct 13, 2014 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 23672051)
I really wanted the T-Mobile plan, which has unlimited data in theory, but slow after a tier that you pay for. In this case, for you, 5 GB is $70/month. But then you get some free international roaming, which is slow, but could be nice. And tethering works AFAIK, on the US service.

T-Mo won't work for me, domestically, at least. I travel very extensively by road across the US each year. T-Mo's coverage is not sufficient for me. Heck, their coverage map shows 2G both at home and in every place my family lives and that I visit each year, not to mention the roads in between those places.

Internationally, it would be nice to have data upon arrival in each country, but the throttled speeds would not be acceptable to me for anything more than a brief transit through the country. I would likely still end up purchasing a local SIM for faster speeds and the ability to tether, so the appeal of the free international roaming is limited.


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 23672051)
Another important note here: you said you switched your SIM on your old phone. That won't work on a new subsidized one from AT&T for two years, and after two years, you'll still need their mysterious blessing.

I'm aware of that. A relative is upgrading to the 6, too, and I will be obtaining that person's old iPhone 5 for use as my international travel phone (since my unlocked iPhone 5 was stolen).

I do appreciate you trying to offer alternative solutions, but I'm pretty knowledgeable about the options available to me, and I have very specific reasons I want to purchase the specific model and carrier I mentioned at the subsidized, contract price. My question for the thread here was about availability of that specific model and how best to improve my chances of securing that specific model.

pricesquire Oct 13, 2014 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 23667530)
Good point. That said, I've happily relied on just my iPhone camera for extended travel in probably 20 countries over the last three years, and it's done quite fine for me. I'm not planning on selling any of my pictures to any calendar publishers...

I feel 100% the same way.

On another note, and somewhat related to this thread: is it to be expected this time next year we'll be seeing the iPhone 6S, and this time in 2 years we'll be seeing the 7?

josephstern Oct 13, 2014 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by pricesquire (Post 23672256)
I feel 100% the same way.

On another note, and somewhat related to this thread: is it to be expected this time next year we'll be seeing the iPhone 6S, and this time in 2 years we'll be seeing the 7?

If history is any guide.

Need Oct 14, 2014 7:35 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 23672034)
I don't doubt you're right, but I use 5GB+ each month. (Yes, it is throttled after the 5GB mark.) And you're right about tethering, although work pays for a Mifi, so I'm covered there.

It depends if you are on an individual plan or family plan, and if you are on an individual unlimited grandfathered plan, you are probably better off staying there. I had a family plan with unlimited data on all the devices, and I decided to switch over to Next and saved a ton of money. I had been watching my data usage and found out that my 5 lines only used about 7GB total a month. I was paying over $300 a month. I switched to the 10GB shared plan and it went down to under $200 a month. Now they have the special running that if you do the 15GB plan, you get 30GB. So I upped to it and only pay $30 more. It is not unlimited... but 5 lines sharing 30GB is more than I would ever use and I could tether on every single phone which is cool.

And as a bonus... I upgraded all the phones (with 2yr contract discount price) just before I switched over to the mobile share value plan. So I am still on contract... but I am not paying for any of the phone anymore. I think this is some kind of loophole.. but I am not complaining. I saved $1800 already for the next 2 years!

jackal Oct 14, 2014 8:09 am


Originally Posted by Need (Post 23674538)
It depends if you are on an individual plan or family plan, and if you are on an individual unlimited grandfathered plan, you are probably better off staying there. I had a family plan with unlimited data on all the devices, and I decided to switch over to Next and saved a ton of money. I had been watching my data usage and found out that my 5 lines only used about 7GB total a month. I was paying over $300 a month. I switched to the 10GB shared plan and it went down to under $200 a month. Now they have the special running that if you do the 15GB plan, you get 30GB. So I upped to it and only pay $30 more. It is not unlimited... but 5 lines sharing 30GB is more than I would ever use and I could tether on every single phone which is cool.

And as a bonus... I upgraded all the phones (with 2yr contract discount price) just before I switched over to the mobile share value plan. So I am still on contract... but I am not paying for any of the phone anymore. I think this is some kind of loophole.. but I am not complaining. I saved $1800 already for the next 2 years!

Hmm. You bring up a good point, actually. I'm indeed on a family plan, and 30GB is more than we would consume. I hate to give up the "unlimited" plan, just out of principle, but I'll have to look and see if it does save me a chunk of change. And if I can take advantage of that loophole, too... :D

Need Oct 14, 2014 8:46 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 23674711)
Hmm. You bring up a good point, actually. I'm indeed on a family plan, and 30GB is more than we would consume. I hate to give up the "unlimited" plan, just out of principle, but I'll have to look and see if it does save me a chunk of change. And if I can take advantage of that loophole, too... :D

Oh trust me, it was really hard for me to give up the unlimited plan too. But the saving was just too attractive especially when I include the $20 or $25 family unlimited TXT per month that I don't have to pay anymore. The other thing is that most of the other lines (except for mine) don't do upgrade every 2 years.. so after 2 years of a new phone.. I was just paying AT&T extra for no reason at all. I didn't like that.. just out of principle LOL. :p

deemkaa Oct 14, 2014 10:38 am


Originally Posted by Need (Post 23674538)
It depends if you are on an individual plan or family plan, and if you are on an individual unlimited grandfathered plan, you are probably better off staying there. I had a family plan with unlimited data on all the devices, and I decided to switch over to Next and saved a ton of money. I had been watching my data usage and found out that my 5 lines only used about 7GB total a month. I was paying over $300 a month. I switched to the 10GB shared plan and it went down to under $200 a month. Now they have the special running that if you do the 15GB plan, you get 30GB. So I upped to it and only pay $30 more. It is not unlimited... but 5 lines sharing 30GB is more than I would ever use and I could tether on every single phone which is cool.

And as a bonus... I upgraded all the phones (with 2yr contract discount price) just before I switched over to the mobile share value plan. So I am still on contract... but I am not paying for any of the phone anymore. I think this is some kind of loophole.. but I am not complaining. I saved $1800 already for the next 2 years!

great tips here, thanks! is it really a loophole, or is it desgined that way to keep the customers ?

Need Oct 14, 2014 11:14 am


Originally Posted by deemkaa (Post 23675508)
great tips here, thanks! is it really a loophole, or is it desgined that way to keep the customers ?

I have no idea, but I told my coworker who is on the Verizon mobile plan to see if he could do the same trick switching to the cheaper per device version for edge plan pricing. He couldn't do it.. Verizon would not lower the per device charge if your line is still under contract.


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