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Big Mac Feb 8, 2013 8:12 am


Originally Posted by roberino (Post 20207950)
The things I can't do on my iPad that I would like to do involve the use of a mouse (writing DTP and PowerPoint), and apparently that's one of the worst things about the Surface Pro.

You do know that you can attach any mouse (quickly and without a fuss) to the Surface or Surface Pro right?


Originally Posted by 601 (Post 20208210)
The keyboard/kickstand is little more than a novelty,

We have a bunch of the Asus VivoTab and its keyboard is a much more elegant solution. Although only Atom based. And from what I can see the keyboards are rarely not attached.

I can assure you the kickstand and keyboard are not a novelty. The kickstand and keyboard have a real/useful purpose without adding bulk (which is why you probably use a tablet). No other tablet offers this option. If a tablet becomes too bulky because of bulky accessories you're probably better off with an Ultrabook. Besides, Microsoft is coming out with various accessories for the Surface.

roberino Feb 8, 2013 8:22 am


Originally Posted by Big Mac (Post 20209359)
You do know that you can attach any mouse (quickly and without a fuss) to the Surface or Surface Pro right?

Yes, but if you're going to have a track pad mouse on a device they why make it a bad one? Also, where do you use the mouse if you're on a flight (as this is FT!). The fold out table is in use for the Surface Pro, as we've already established it's not much good on your knees.

CPRich Feb 8, 2013 9:36 am


Originally Posted by roberino (Post 20207950)
I've watched it again, and although "trashed" was an excessive word to use I felt that the reviewer only put in some positive comments because he had to. He was more physically animated when making the negative comments while his expression and body language dropped off when he was making the positive comments. Possibly too much pop psych there, but I reckon if you asked him about it over a beer he'd say he hated it.

An interesting commentary on human communications - you watched the video, I read the printed version. I suspect my Human Capital colleagues could have a field day with that facts vs. emotion components of our takeaways.

Error 601 Feb 8, 2013 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by Big Mac (Post 20209359)
I can assure you the kickstand and keyboard are not a novelty. The kickstand and keyboard have a real/useful purpose without adding bulk (which is why you probably use a tablet). No other tablet offers this option.

And how the "the doily" as one of the IT chicks calls it accomplish this better than the Asus solution?

It turns a tablet into an ergonomically usable notebook, the Surface just apes some of the sillier third party iPad cases.

Jimmie76 Feb 8, 2013 6:27 pm

I see that 'Nemo' the winter storm (as named by the Weather Channel) has cancelled the Surface Pro launch event in NYC.

CPRich Feb 10, 2013 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20200504)
There'll be a line? ;)

'Apple-like' lines for Microsoft's Surface Pro


"Critics will be disappointed to discover that Surface Pro is in fact flying off the shelves."

skofarrell Feb 11, 2013 5:02 am


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 20222988)

:D

"When new products sell out on launch day it usually means one of two things: it’s a hot product or they didn’t make enough. Unfortunately for Microsoft, it appears that the Surface Pro falls into the latter category. My local (Northern Virginia) Microsoft store sold out in 15 minutes, which means there wasn’t much to sell."

http://virtualpants.com/post/4269059...-pro-sells-out

The Zune sold out in 2009 too.

http://www.oled-info.com/zune-hd-sol...ternet-outlets

Look, I think the Surface Pro will be a success. Unfortunately for Microsoft, its the RT platform that really matters. The world doesn't need another touch enabled Windows 8 PC, there's going to be hundreds of them. The Atom based devices that are starting to hit the market now are going to be even more interesting than current i5 based Surface Pro. Haswell holds even more promise.

We need Microsoft (or someone) to produce a Post PC era device to compete with the iPad and Android tablets. A Windows device that runs a ton of apps, one that lasts for 8-10 hours on a charge, one that doesn't need to worry about viruses, one that doesn't need 30+gb for the OS, one that can upgraded with a new download and install in 15 min... Basically what Microsoft promised us with RT last year.

Skate to where the puck is going, not where's its been.

ScottC Feb 11, 2013 7:29 am

Of course it sold out - their flagship stores had 100 total (50 64GB and 50 128GB) AND started doing pre-sales earlier in the week without actually telling people.

I arrived at the local Microsoft store at 10:00, and the store had already sold out. Apparently, they decided to open early (even though they told me the day before that they would open normal hours AND that they'd have PLENTY in stock). The local Best Buy got ONE unit, which was sold before the store opened.

By the time I got home (after wasting two hours), the 128GB was sold out on their site.

They couldn't have handled this any poorly. Despite the lousy reviews, there are still people who trusted them - and this is how they deal with us. Like Google, Microsoft has very little experience in retail and merchandising, and should take a long hard look at Apple for tips on how to get products in the hands of their fans.

Oh, and the 64GB units I did order still haven't shipped - they generated a tracking number on Saturday (and I paid for overnight), but they are of course still stuck in a warehouse somewhere.

Jimmie76 Feb 11, 2013 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20225276)
Of course it sold out - their flagship stores had 100 total (50 64GB and 50 128GB) AND started doing pre-sales earlier in the week without actually telling people.

I arrived at the local Microsoft store at 10:00, and the store had already sold out. Apparently, they decided to open early (even though they told me the day before that they would open normal hours AND that they'd have PLENTY in stock). The local Best Buy got ONE unit, which was sold before the store opened.

By the time I got home (after wasting two hours), the 128GB was sold out on their site.

They couldn't have handled this any poorly. Despite the lousy reviews, there are still people who trusted them - and this is how they deal with us. Like Google, Microsoft has very little experience in retail and merchandising, and should take a long hard look at Apple for tips on how to get products in the hands of their fans.

Oh, and the 64GB units I did order still haven't shipped - they generated a tracking number on Saturday (and I paid for overnight), but they are of course still stuck in a warehouse somewhere.

Oh it was one of those launches, went to the press party for a technology company where they were showing off their latest product and I asked how many would be available on launch day. Under a thousand were being flown in, the rest were coming a month later when the container ship docked, "still" says the staffer I'm talking to "means we should sell out".:rolleyes:

ScottC Feb 11, 2013 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by Jimmie76 (Post 20227700)
Oh it was one of those launches, went to the press party for a technology company where they were showing off their latest product and I asked how many would be available on launch day. Under a thousand were being flown in, the rest were coming a month later when the container ship docked, "still" says the staffer I'm talking to "means we should sell out".:rolleyes:

Yes - absolutely one of THOSE. Apparently some of their stores (like in Hawaii) didn't get ANY units, others had under 20.

Pathetic.

skofarrell Feb 11, 2013 8:07 pm

While you're waiting, you can pass the time by watching another goofy Surface ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=tr3dFSzh1yU

Ory Feb 12, 2013 7:12 am

Wake me up when the iPad gets Office and a removable memory slot.

Until then, a lot of people will be buying these.

Jimmie76 Feb 12, 2013 9:11 am


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20229452)
While you're waiting, you can pass the time by watching another goofy Surface ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=tr3dFSzh1yU

Or watch a Montanna tv station were hacked and broadcast a spoof EAS message about Zombies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7pNAhENBV4

Which still doesn't beat the best tv hoax for me which was broadcast on Czech tv:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea4eft_3p-I

I suppose the Surface ads are okay, but they don't exactly make me want to buy or even find out any more about the Surface which is surely the point.

ScottC Feb 12, 2013 9:43 am


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20229452)
While you're waiting, you can pass the time by watching another goofy Surface ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=tr3dFSzh1yU

Consumer marketing brilliance!

Name one powerful feature of the Microsoft Surface tablet: "It goes click".

Jimmie76 Feb 12, 2013 10:03 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20232322)
Consumer marketing brilliance!

Name one powerful feature of the Microsoft Surface tablet: "It goes click".

Yup tells me B*gger All about the innovative features etc. but apparently I'm okay to dance with it.


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