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tatmtr7 Jan 22, 2013 8:02 am

iPad question
 
So I got the new iPad as a gift and will take it with me when I fly. Looked at buying an otter box to protect it but might rethink that if I have to remove it thru security. It is difficult to remove while in line. Anyone use this protection?
Thanks

upinsmoke Jan 22, 2013 8:12 am

Tablets don't need to be removed from carry-on luggage. Only laptops. So I don't see how your choice of case for it would matter.

wolf539 Jan 22, 2013 8:16 am


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 20099664)
Tablets don't need to be removed from carry-on luggage. Only laptops. So I don't see how your choice of case for it would matter.

Exactly, and get yourself something nice. Not an otter box. :td:

Microwave Jan 22, 2013 8:27 am

As this thread isn't related to American or AAdvantage, I'm moving it to the Travel Technology forum where those interested in this topic can comment. Enjoy your iPad!

~Microwave
AAdvantage Forum Co-moderator

gobluetwo Jan 22, 2013 8:40 am

You won't have to worry about taking it out of your bag, regardless of your choice of case. I have colleagues who have fairly bulky keyboard cases and they've never had a problem leaving them in their bags. I have a slim leather cover/case and have never been asked to remove it from my bag.

cordelli Jan 22, 2013 8:43 am

Even if you were to take it out of the bag, which you don't have to, I don't think they would require you to remove it from the case for screening.

msv Jan 22, 2013 8:48 am

I got a roocase which is leather and folds open to make a stand. It has protected my iPad on a few falls :o

Score8 Jan 22, 2013 9:13 am


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 20099664)
Tablets don't need to be removed from carry-on luggage. Only laptops. So I don't see how your choice of case for it would matter.

There are many places in the world where you do have to remove your Ipad (Madrid, for one), but I've never had to remove it from the cover.

JDiver Jan 22, 2013 9:28 am

That can vary - I have been requested to remove a tablet and reader from hand baggage on different occasions in US airports - and several times aborad.


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 20099664)
Tablets don't need to be removed from carry-on luggage. Only laptops. So I don't see how your choice of case for it would matter.


7Continents Jan 22, 2013 9:50 am

My bag got searched because I didn't take it out in LHR.

DeafFlyer Jan 22, 2013 10:34 am


Originally Posted by 7Continents (Post 20100393)
My bag got searched because I didn't take it out in LHR.

Same for me at CPH. I did not have to remove it from the case at any point in our trip, though.

QueenOfCoach Jan 22, 2013 11:09 am

iPad question
 
LHR security checks require tablet computers and e-readers to be completely removed from covers and cases.

shizzy Jan 22, 2013 12:25 pm

Interesting to hear certain airports require you to remove it from your bag. I haven't been asked yet.

I just use the Smartcover for the screen. It works very well and doesn't make it any bulkier like the full encased shells tend to do.

DeafFlyer Jan 22, 2013 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach (Post 20100949)
LHR security checks require tablet computers and e-readers to be completely removed from covers and cases.

That's going to tough for me to do. Are you sure about this?

dumdum Jan 22, 2013 4:24 pm

I was asked to remove the following at the Munich Airport last week

- Kindle
- Camera
- Wireless mouse
- hard drive

I was travelling United Global First from Munich to Chicago :)

wrp96 Jan 22, 2013 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach (Post 20100949)
LHR security checks require tablet computers and e-readers to be completely removed from covers and cases.


Originally Posted by DeafFlyer (Post 20103192)
That's going to tough for me to do. Are you sure about this?

Yes, had it happen last month. Lots of signs stating specifically that tablets and e-readers must be out of carry ons and out of cases. At least one sign specificed iPads and Kindles were included.

2millionquest Jan 22, 2013 4:45 pm

I just finished an 11-segment trip that included passing through security at LHR (three times), BRU, GIB, LIS, MAD, and BCN (as well as ORD, DFW, and MIA). At the U.S. airports, nobody cared about my iPad; I left it in my carry-on. At all of the European airports, I had to remove it from my hand luggage. Mine is a first-generation iPad, so the new smart covers don't fit. I have the soft black faux suede/rubber bookwrap type cover sold by Apple back in the day, but now no longer available. In addition, I now keep it in one of the new First amenity kit neoprene cases from AA F. Every time I went through a European airport, I was asked to remove the iPad from the neoprene AA sleeve, but I was never asked to remove the soft bookwrap cover.

Salmontes Jan 22, 2013 5:40 pm

Flew on United from LAX to OGG and I asked the TSA agent if I needed to pull it out and he said no,just laptops.

I'm sure it depends on airports discretion.

flyerslc Jan 22, 2013 5:59 pm

Here in the US, TSA employees will remove it from your luggage for you. And save you the trouble of having to ever buy a case for it again.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/t...king-software/

antichef Jan 22, 2013 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 20099664)
Tablets don't need to be removed from carry-on luggage. Only laptops. So I don't see how your choice of case for it would matter.

You can ignore this advice if you wish to travel outside the USA! All of Europe will require it out of the bag.

ESpen36 Jan 22, 2013 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 20099664)
Tablets don't need to be removed from carry-on luggage. Only laptops. So I don't see how your choice of case for it would matter.



The above applies in the USA only. In Europe, all tablets, including iPads, must be removed. Not sure about Canada.

aster Jan 22, 2013 10:04 pm

For a while Heathrow didn't require you to remove your laptop either. And then they somehow reverted to their old policy for some reason...

QueenOfCoach Jan 23, 2013 1:46 am

[QUOTE=DeafFlyer;20103192]

Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach (Post 20100949)

That's going to tough for me to do. Are you sure about this?

Positive. I saw that myself last November.

antichef Jan 23, 2013 1:50 am


Originally Posted by DeafFlyer (Post 20103192)
... Are you sure about this?

I do 2-4 flights a week, mainly in Europe, and always with an ipad.

Trust me, I am sure!! :D

catandmouse Jan 23, 2013 2:59 am

Laptops, tablets, Ipads have to come out of carry-on at airports outside the USA. In most cases they won't allow the laptops to be left in a sleeve either (there are specific notices about this at LHR for example).
95% of the time you do not have to take shoes off, taking shoes off without being asked to do so labels you as an American:D

DYKWIA Jan 23, 2013 6:09 am


Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach (Post 20100949)
LHR security checks require tablet computers and e-readers to be completely removed from covers and cases.

I've *never* been required to do this at LHR... out of the bag has been fine.

DeafFlyer Jan 23, 2013 5:15 pm


Originally Posted by antichef (Post 20105602)
I do 2-4 flights a week, mainly in Europe, and always with an ipad.

Trust me, I am sure!! :D

I'm still unsure if we're talking about the same thing. My ipad is in a case like this: http://wholesales-shopping.com/wp-co...012/01/263.jpg

Removing it and reinserting it is like this: http://www.touchgen.net/wp-content/u...ipad2_case.png
I use this case because of hand disabilities. What you're, and other posters, are saying, is that I have to pry the whole thing apart just to go through security, and then put it all back together again on the other side (something I cannot do without assistance.) Is this what you mean by "must be out of cases"? It means I have to find another case which works for my disability, and is easy to remove and reinsert the ipad. I wonder if such a case exists?

At CPH they did not have a problem with that case. Why is LHR different?

2millionquest Jan 23, 2013 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by DeafFlyer (Post 20110721)
At CPH they did not have a problem with that case. Why is LHR different?

For the same reason that the rules in the U.S. are different than the rules at LHR, because they are different countries and different airport authorities.

But I think you're confusing apples (no pun intended ;)) and oranges here. You need to remove your iPad from your hand luggage at most European airports; despite what some have reported in this thread, you don't necessarily have to remove the iPad from its own individual case. As I mentioned upthread, I keep my iPad in a slim folder type case. I've never -- at any airport -- been asked to remove it from that case. However, I also then put the iPad and case inside a larger neoprene sleeve. I have been asked to remove it from the neoprene sleeve. It seems like as long as the screen is visible (as in your example), there isn't an issue. YMMV, of course.

DeafFlyer Jan 24, 2013 6:54 am


Originally Posted by 2millionquest (Post 20110773)
For the same reason that the rules in the U.S. are different than the rules at LHR, because they are different countries and different airport authorities.

But I think you're confusing apples (no pun intended ;)) and oranges here. You need to remove your iPad from your hand luggage at most European airports; despite what some have reported in this thread, you don't necessarily have to remove the iPad from its own individual case. As I mentioned upthread, I keep my iPad in a slim folder type case. I've never -- at any airport -- been asked to remove it from that case. However, I also then put the iPad and case inside a larger neoprene sleeve. I have been asked to remove it from the neoprene sleeve. It seems like as long as the screen is visible (as in your example), there isn't an issue. YMMV, of course.

If what you say is true, then it is the same as CPH. Someone said it had to come out of cases too. That's what is confusing me.

2millionquest Jan 24, 2013 9:06 am


Originally Posted by DeafFlyer (Post 20113850)
If what you say is true, then it is the same as CPH. Someone said it had to come out of cases too. That's what is confusing me.

I'm not sure which part of what I posted you are confused about. It's all "true." One person posted that she had to take her e-reader out of its case. Other people quickly chimed in that they did not have the same experience in multiple trips through LHR. I don't think any of us are lying about our experiences, just reporting them as factually as we can. Take our posts for what they're worth and then plan accordingly for your trip. That's the best anyone can offer.

mia Jan 24, 2013 9:52 am


Originally Posted by DeafFlyer (Post 20110721)
... What you're, and other posters, are saying, is that I have to pry the whole thing apart just to go through security,

I think various posters are stating that you should be prepared for the possibility because rules and implementation differ by location. Even if the rules do not require it, security officers have a range of discretion. If you cannot do this by yourself it would seem prudent to choose a different case to use when flying.

2millionquest Jan 24, 2013 10:31 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 20114865)
I think various posters are stating that you should be prepared for the possibility because rules and implementation differ by location. Even if the rules do not require it, security officers have a range of discretion. If you cannot do this by yourself it would seem prudent to choose a different case to use when flying.

^

DeafFlyer Jan 24, 2013 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by mia (Post 20114865)
I think various posters are stating that you should be prepared for the possibility because rules and implementation differ by location. Even if the rules do not require it, security officers have a range of discretion. If you cannot do this by yourself it would seem prudent to choose a different case to use when flying.

That makes sense and I will look around for a case that I can handle in this situation. However, I don't have any plans to fly to LHR anytime soon.

mjcewl1284 Jan 24, 2013 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 20100239)
That can vary - I have been requested to remove a tablet and reader from hand baggage on different occasions in US airports - and several times aborad.

Going through NRT, the security officers at the screening area don't request that I take my iPad and Kindle out but they will always ask if there is a tablet in the bag, I say yes, they remove both items from the bag itself and rescan. So as a habit after 2-3 times of them doing this, I just remember to remove both the iPad and Kindle in NRT only so I'm not delayed at the c/p.

GadgetFreak Jan 25, 2013 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
LHR security checks require tablet computers and e-readers to be completely removed from covers and cases.

I fly thorough LHR maybe 7-10 times a year and that has never happened to me. Although a lot of this type thing is hit and miss. Including a screener at JFK telling me "for me you have to take it out of the bag".

scubadu Jan 25, 2013 5:56 am


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 20120443)
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I fly thorough LHR maybe 7-10 times a year and that has never happened to me. Although a lot of this type thing is hit and miss. Including a screener at JFK telling me "for me you have to take it out of the bag".

My wife and I recently flew through LHR and both of us were required to completely remove our iPads from their cases. As near as I could observe this was happening in the adjacent security lines as well.

Regards

P.S. On a separate but related topic, I must say that for all the whining about TSA in the United States, going through security at LHR was perhaps one of the most demeaning/humbling airport experiences I've ever had.

GadgetFreak Jan 25, 2013 6:29 am


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 20120608)
My wife and I recently flew through LHR and both of us were required to completely remove our iPads from their cases. As near as I could observe this was happening in the adjacent security lines as well.

Regards

P.S. On a separate but related topic, I must say that for all the whining about TSA in the United States, going through security at LHR was perhaps one of the most demeaning/humbling airport experiences I've ever had.

Thanks. Maybe it's new. I haven't been through since maybe October.

In terms of the OP, rather than something like an Otterbox, which I use for my iPhone by the way, for the ipad I use a Smart Cover and put the whole thing in an iPad Travel Express from Waterfield Design (sfbags.com). Works great, very protective and it holds cables and such as well. It is also a breeze to remove covers and replace. The whole Travel Express fits nicey in my briefcase or backpack.

mre5765 Jan 25, 2013 6:51 am

In CDG, FRA, DUB, and LCY I have been required to remove my ipad from my carry on, but no problem leaving the SmartCover on.

In the USA and BLR, I have never been required to remove my ipad from my carry on.

pacer142 Jan 25, 2013 7:03 am


Originally Posted by Score8 (Post 20100117)
There are many places in the world where you do have to remove your Ipad (Madrid, for one), but I've never had to remove it from the cover.

You have to remove it from your bag in the UK and Switzerland, and for good reason - it's hard to see through an X-ray image of a PCB to what's hidden underneath it in a bag.

"Large electronics out" is one of the few security hassles I do actually agree with, having seen what a laptop looks like on an X-ray scanner.

Neil

pacer142 Jan 25, 2013 7:06 am


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 20120608)
P.S. On a separate but related topic, I must say that for all the whining about TSA in the United States, going through security at LHR was perhaps one of the most demeaning/humbling airport experiences I've ever had.

LHR is a nasty airport full stop. It's overfull of people who are not happy to be there (passengers and staff).

Smaller UK airports tend to be staffed by much more polite people. I think it helps when they have a large proportion of holiday traffic (=people who want to be travelling and aren't in a hurry). In particular I find almost all of the security staff I have encountered at LTN to be polite and cheerful.

That said, one way to ensure they are not is to argue with them - you are guaranteed to get nowhere (they have no authority to waive procedures, nor should they have) - if there is a complaint to be made, make it formally in writing after the event.

Neil


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