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I am new to to FT but have found posters to be very, very informed and helpful. So here is my situation. I live in America. In October, I am going to Germany for three weeks. It is my first international travel and can't wait - I am so excited.
Here is my question: what is the best, most cost efficient way to maintain communication with home and have internet access (for e-mail, web searching, etc...) while in Germany? What devices/plans are best?
Thank you in advance for any advise you can provide.
Here is my question: what is the best, most cost efficient way to maintain communication with home and have internet access (for e-mail, web searching, etc...) while in Germany? What devices/plans are best?
Thank you in advance for any advise you can provide.
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Here is a freeby. I bring an I touch find a wifi spot and with the Vonage app make calls back to the US for free. Don't ask me how it works. My daughter showed me how. Last year we were in Vienna Munich Portugal and Cologne. It worked to perfectly. When I downloaded the Vonage app they gave me $1.00 credit. I think that there is still 50 cents credit on the account .
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Something to consider is that free WiFi spots in Germany are few and far between.
How often to you plan on checking in back to the U.S.?
Assuming you have a GSM phone, my suggestion is to buy a local SIM with a 2-4GB dataplan and a low calling rate to the U.S.
How often to you plan on checking in back to the U.S.?
Assuming you have a GSM phone, my suggestion is to buy a local SIM with a 2-4GB dataplan and a low calling rate to the U.S.
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Sorry about not mentioning what phone I currently have. Presently all in the family are on a plan with Verizon. Everyong has an IPhone but me. I don't have a smart phone. That said, I am due for an upgrade so I am willing to get an IPhone or other phone that might work.
BTW what is a GSM phone? Sorry for my ignorance - just learning this stuff.
BTW what is a GSM phone? Sorry for my ignorance - just learning this stuff.
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In the US, the four major companies use one of two technologies:
CDMA: Verizon &Sprint
GSM: AT&T and T-Mobile
The base difference is that phones on a GSM network use a removable "soft card" to identify the phone to the network,
A CDMA phone identifies to the network with internal circuitry,
This means that a CDMA phone can't be used on another network.
With an UNLOCKED* GSM phone, by temporarily swapping out the U.S. SIM card and sliding in a SIM card obtained from a European (for instance) provider, your phone will function on the European network. Your contacts and apps are intact, since they typically reside in the phone's built-in memory.
When you get back home, swap the SIMS in reverse to get the GSM phone back onto the US network.
Example of SIM card:
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McWorld - How international is the iPhone 4S 'world phone?'
Motorola also has several models of CDMA and GSM capable global phones including the Photon and the Droid 2.
One of the most interesting wrinkles in the iPhone 4S—which I review at length elsewhere—is its status as a “world phone.” Unlike previous generations, it supports both CDMA (Verizon, Sprint) and GSM (AT&T, the rest of the world) wireless technology right out of the box. But there are some interesting quirks to this product that may please savvy international travelers.
When Apple released the Verizon iPhone 4 in February, the iPhone 4's product line got a little more complicated. Because Verizon’s network in the U.S. uses a different wireless standard (CDMA) than AT&T does (GSM), Apple had to build different chipsets for each network, and thus, different phones. But the iPhone 4S changes all that: It can access either the CDMA or GSM network, depending on which carrier you sign up for.
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But the iPhone 4S supports both GSM and CDMA networks, and has a micro-SIM card slot no matter which carrier you subscribe to. So if you buy a phone from a CDMA carrier that doesn't use SIM cards, what’s in that slot? The answer is something that’s called a “roaming SIM.” If you're subscribed to a CDMA carrier in the states, when you travel internationally, your device can now switch to an international GSM network using a micro-SIM card. In other words, when outside the U.S., you can still get phone calls to your regular number and connect to the Internet, thanks to a micro-SIM that connects to Sprint and Verizon’s partner wireless networks in those countries—all at much higher rates than in the U.S., of course.
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But there’s a new wrinkle that potentially makes the international-roaming experience better on Sprint and Verizon iPhones than it is on AT&T. Sprint plans to sell the iPhone 4S with its micro-SIM slot unlocked; Verizon’s will be initially locked, but if you’ve been a customer in good standing for 60 days, you can call Verizon and ask for an “international unlock.” (A Verizon spokesperson told me that this is Verizon’s standard policy for all world phones—it’s just the first time it’s manifested itself on an iPhone.)
When Apple released the Verizon iPhone 4 in February, the iPhone 4's product line got a little more complicated. Because Verizon’s network in the U.S. uses a different wireless standard (CDMA) than AT&T does (GSM), Apple had to build different chipsets for each network, and thus, different phones. But the iPhone 4S changes all that: It can access either the CDMA or GSM network, depending on which carrier you sign up for.
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But the iPhone 4S supports both GSM and CDMA networks, and has a micro-SIM card slot no matter which carrier you subscribe to. So if you buy a phone from a CDMA carrier that doesn't use SIM cards, what’s in that slot? The answer is something that’s called a “roaming SIM.” If you're subscribed to a CDMA carrier in the states, when you travel internationally, your device can now switch to an international GSM network using a micro-SIM card. In other words, when outside the U.S., you can still get phone calls to your regular number and connect to the Internet, thanks to a micro-SIM that connects to Sprint and Verizon’s partner wireless networks in those countries—all at much higher rates than in the U.S., of course.
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But there’s a new wrinkle that potentially makes the international-roaming experience better on Sprint and Verizon iPhones than it is on AT&T. Sprint plans to sell the iPhone 4S with its micro-SIM slot unlocked; Verizon’s will be initially locked, but if you’ve been a customer in good standing for 60 days, you can call Verizon and ask for an “international unlock.” (A Verizon spokesperson told me that this is Verizon’s standard policy for all world phones—it’s just the first time it’s manifested itself on an iPhone.)
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TWA884 - are the dual-mode phones locked to the provided "roaming" SIM, or can the owner swap SIMS at will?
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AT&T iPhones are locked to the micro-SIM card in the slot. Sprint iPhones are unlocked. Verizon will provide an “international unlock” upon request to customers who have been in good standing for 60 days.
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Sprint and Verizon both offer several models of dual mode CDMA/GSM phones including iPhone 4S, Android phones, and Blackberries.
To complicate things, the GSM/CDMA divide was really a 2G technology description. In the 3G and 4G world, both technologies actually are CDMA-based. The GSM 3G standard is officially W-CDMA, and the CDMA 3G standard is CDMA2000. And I believe everyone has converged on LTE as a 4G standard.
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Sprint clarifies iPhone 4S unlocking policy
On Tuesday, I reported on how Sprint and Verizon would handle “international unlocking" of the new iPhone 4S. The new phone is capable of working on those carriers in the U.S. and switching to the more common GSM radio standard for the rest of the world. My report said that Sprint’s iPhone 4S would come with its GSM card slot “unlocked,” meaning you could insert a pre-paid SIM card bought while traveling overseas if you wanted to save some cash on international phone surcharges.
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On Thursday, Sprint spokesperson Michelle Leff Mermelstein issued a new statement to me regarding the iPhone 4S and international unlocking for Sprint customers. Here’s the deal:
Indeed, the Sprint iPhone 4S will ship with its micro-SIM slot unlocked. However, Sprint now says that it will be locking that slot “shortly after launch” via an update pushed to those devices. After the slot has been locked, Sprint says that it will allow customers in good standing to unlock the SIM for international use in the future.
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On Thursday, Sprint spokesperson Michelle Leff Mermelstein issued a new statement to me regarding the iPhone 4S and international unlocking for Sprint customers. Here’s the deal:
Indeed, the Sprint iPhone 4S will ship with its micro-SIM slot unlocked. However, Sprint now says that it will be locking that slot “shortly after launch” via an update pushed to those devices. After the slot has been locked, Sprint says that it will allow customers in good standing to unlock the SIM for international use in the future.
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If the OP is taking a computer, better to make sure the hotels he stays at has free or cheap Wifi. When you use a booking site like booking.com, you can see what they charge for Internet in the rooms and so forth.
With a computer, he can use Skype to communicate back.
One thing though is that a lot of hotels have poor bandwidth. For instance, I just returned from Cannes, staying at a small hotel and the speed for 300 kbps. Podcasts on iTunes would take even hours to download.
So I happened to have a prepaid data SIM from the SFR network and it got 1 to 2 Mbps. Reception wasn't the best at the hotel but when I went out, I was getting as much as 4 Mbps in a Mifi.
With a computer, he can use Skype to communicate back.
One thing though is that a lot of hotels have poor bandwidth. For instance, I just returned from Cannes, staying at a small hotel and the speed for 300 kbps. Podcasts on iTunes would take even hours to download.
So I happened to have a prepaid data SIM from the SFR network and it got 1 to 2 Mbps. Reception wasn't the best at the hotel but when I went out, I was getting as much as 4 Mbps in a Mifi.

