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Loren Pechtel Jul 17, 2012 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by Paint Horse (Post 18946233)
Ok forget one or more local fireproof waterproof USB drives. My safe deposit box is free as part of the bank account. But maybe a set of regular USB drives to store all of that data are also too pricey. But services such as Carbonite are; "Unlimited online backup – starting at $59/year per computer."

What bank gives free safety deposit boxes these days?


As for Carbonite--how long would it take to upload his 7-8tb of data???

Paint Horse Jul 17, 2012 3:14 pm

Bank of America as least in my case.

Good question. We were chatting about Verizon FIOS just last night before class, The current top speed is 300 down and 65 up. I really need to move back to town.

Loren Pechtel Jul 17, 2012 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by Paint Horse (Post 18949622)
Bank of America as least in my case.

Good question. We were chatting about Verizon FIOS just last night before class, The current top speed is 300 down and 65 up. I really need to move back to town.

300/65?? Drool!

jetsfan92588 Jul 19, 2012 12:36 pm

Computer won't boot with HDD connected
 
I took the drive to staples and the easy tech guy put it in his machine for about a minute and said the drive is completely dead. He said its not the board, it's the entire drive. Before I throw out the drive, do you think I should still try to get a new board ($50 plus about $15 for shipping)? Is there any way he could actually tell if it was the board as opposed to a problem with the plates or something without actually taking it apart?

goalie Jul 19, 2012 4:47 pm

Sorry to hear that it's the drive :( and fwiw, how old is the drive? The reason I ask is that the hard drive in my laptop died and for "you know what" & giggles, I went to Seagate's web site to see if it was still under warranty and lo and behold it was :eek:. I called the 800 number listed and they shipped me a replacement drive. The drive is factory refurbished and it carries the remaining part of of the 5 year warranty so I have 13 months left (and for me where this is an ancient laptop and the same size drive was out of stock, I opted for a slightly smaller drive)

jetsfan92588 Jul 19, 2012 6:45 pm

Wow, thank you for that! I didn't even consider it and figured the warranty was only 1 or 2 years especially since it was OEM. It turns out it is under warranty with an extra 13 months to spare.

Regarding carbonite: is it truly "unlimited" or do they limit it in other ways? For instance with "unlimited" web hosting they limit the nodes (which effectively limits storage) or simply cancel your account/force you into dedicated or vps if you take up too much space.

NPF Jul 20, 2012 8:13 am


Originally Posted by jetsfan92588 (Post 18963024)
I took the drive to staples and the easy tech guy put it in his machine for about a minute and said the drive is completely dead. He said its not the board, it's the entire drive. Before I throw out the drive, do you think I should still try to get a new board ($50 plus about $15 for shipping)? Is there any way he could actually tell if it was the board as opposed to a problem with the plates or something without actually taking it apart?

There is no way a "technician" could diagnose it in a minute . . .

Most "completely dead" drives emit no sounds (probably the basis for the "diagnose") which, by the way, reinforces the possibility of a bad board.

Throwing away the drive would be the easier option, but if will have data you value in it, $65 to recoup appears to be a fair price.

goalie Jul 20, 2012 10:39 am


Originally Posted by jetsfan92588 (Post 18965407)
Wow, thank you for that! I didn't even consider it and figured the warranty was only 1 or 2 years especially since it was OEM. It turns out it is under warranty with an extra 13 months to spare......

SWEET ^ and happy to have helped :). What I would do is call not only to make sure the same size drive is in stock but also to ask about the two replacement options-one where you ship it back, pay the costs and then wait for the replacement (could take 3 weeks) and the other where you pay for expedited processing* and they ship you the new drive with a postage paid label to put on the same box the replacement drive came in. Also, there is an option for them to try and recover your data tho i didn't do that as where my drive died two days after a back-up my data lost was literally 3 files)



*Mine (iirc) cost $9.75(ish) and I had it within 3 days)

Paint Horse Jul 20, 2012 12:15 pm

As far as can tell Carbonite is indeed unlimited.

Loren Pechtel Jul 20, 2012 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by jetsfan92588 (Post 18963024)
I took the drive to staples and the easy tech guy put it in his machine for about a minute and said the drive is completely dead. He said its not the board, it's the entire drive. Before I throw out the drive, do you think I should still try to get a new board ($50 plus about $15 for shipping)? Is there any way he could actually tell if it was the board as opposed to a problem with the plates or something without actually taking it apart?

I would be very surprised if a Staples (or any other such store) tech would be able to tell this.

Paint Horse Jul 30, 2012 1:34 pm

For future reference:

Raising the dead: Can a regular person repair a damaged hard drive?

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...ged-hard-drive

jetsfan92588 Aug 22, 2012 2:22 pm

It worked!! Got the new pc board, took all the data off the drive and about to send the drive back to Seagate for a replacement. Thanks again for all the help!

cordelli Aug 22, 2012 2:58 pm

Should go have a chat with the Staples Guy and see if you can educate them.

cordelli Aug 22, 2012 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 18949173)

As for Carbonite--how long would it take to upload his 7-8tb of data???

Forever, if this is still true. From a PC Magazine review about it

One important point about speed is that, though you have no maximum data cap for files stored on Carbonite's servers, once you pass the 35GB mark, your upload speeds are throttled down considerably, from 2MB/sec to 512Kbps, and once you pass 200GB, it's reduced further, to 100Kbps/sec—that's nearly dial-up modem speed. The premium account levels keep the speed up a 2MB/sec all the way up to 200GB uploaded. This throttling takes away some of the appeal of "unlimited"—some users who want a large amount of data stored quickly would do better to choose a "limited" 250GB account from another vender like SOS or IDrive.

Paint Horse Aug 22, 2012 3:23 pm

All I can say is that it works for me. If online backup is not your thing, then store the drive with the backup in a safe deposit box.


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