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LIH Prem Jul 20, 2010 3:01 am

firefox sync! (add-on)
 
Store your firefox bookmarks, history, passwords, tabs in the cloud, and share them between your computers and mobile devices.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10868/

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/sync/

Your account gets a password, your data gets encrypted with a separate pass key.

gfunkdave Jul 20, 2010 8:10 am

I've been using Xmarks for a long time to do all this. It's also a free Firefox addon.

ScottC Jul 20, 2010 8:16 am

I've been using this for years (when it was still called Mozilla Weave) - absolutely my favorite extension. Any time I get a new laptop, I install Firefox, Sync and in 5 minutes I have all my passwords, bookmarks and more. Only wish it could do extension syncs...

gfunkdave Jul 20, 2010 8:18 am

When it syncs, does it slow down Firefox to a crawl? Xmarks has gotten a lot better but still is noticeable.

ScottC Jul 20, 2010 8:24 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 14332499)
When it syncs, does it slow down Firefox to a crawl? Xmarks has gotten a lot better but still is noticeable.

It *used* to, but now it really does run smoothly in the background. Depending on the size of history and password files, the initial sync can take about 10 minutes.

BobbySteel Jul 20, 2010 8:54 am

I wish there were extensions for other browsers. Given the speed of Chrome I can't go Firefox only anymore. Maybe 3 years ago...

Loren Pechtel Jul 20, 2010 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 14332457)
I've been using Xmarks for a long time to do all this. It's also a free Firefox addon.

Yup. A little laggy at times but generally quite good. I think the lag problem is inherent to Firefox--it seems that something about opening a connection can sometimes block all of Firefox. You get the same thing sometimes loading a web page. (IE is even worse about it.)

LIH Prem Jul 20, 2010 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 14332499)
When it syncs, does it slow down Firefox to a crawl? Xmarks has gotten a lot better but still is noticeable.

I didn't notice it at all, and I just installed it on two laptops. (and didn't use xmarks or earlier versions of sync.)

-David

mikew99 Jul 20, 2010 10:23 pm

The nice thing about xmarks (which I started using back when it was called foxmarks) is that it synchronizes bookmarks & passwords across multiple browsers, including Chrome and Safari.

It's really nice to have one set of bookmarks across all my Firefox installations (as well as IE, which I am forced to use for work).

drewguy Jul 21, 2010 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by mikew99 (Post 14337481)
The nice thing about xmarks (which I started using back when it was called foxmarks) is that it synchronizes bookmarks & passwords across multiple browsers, including Chrome and Safari.

It's really nice to have one set of bookmarks across all my Firefox installations (as well as IE, which I am forced to use for work).

Agree. I've never had a slowness issue with xmarks. If it's a problem, turn off automatic syncing.

BonnieSEA Jul 31, 2010 7:01 pm

XMarks vs. FireFox Sync (formerly Mozilla Weave)
 
I'm trying to decide whether to set up XMarks, or Firefox Sync.
Looking over their features, it seems like the differences are:

XMarks:
  • syncs multiple browsers (IE, Safari etc.)
  • profiles
  • share sets of bookmarks with others
  • some Discovery features not really related to syncing (search keyword hints, site stats, etc.)

Firefox Sync:
  • live tab syncing
  • naming for different computers
  • native to Firefox
  • extension/add-on capability in development

Any other comments on which has the advantage?

cblaisd Jul 31, 2010 7:09 pm

I can only say that I've been very happy with Xmarks, and have been using it since it was Foxmarks. I've rarely experienced any slowdown, and I love how much it indeed synchronizes (including most autofill fields).

Dodge DeBoulet Jul 31, 2010 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by BonnieSEA (Post 14399887)
I'm trying to decide whether to set up XMarks, or Firefox Sync.
Looking over their features, it seems like the differences are:

XMarks:
  • syncs multiple browsers (IE, Safari etc.)
  • profiles
  • share sets of bookmarks with others
  • some Discovery features not really related to syncing (search keyword hints, site stats, etc.)

Firefox Sync:
  • live tab syncing
  • naming for different computers
  • native to Firefox
  • extension/add-on capability in development

Any other comments on which has the advantage?

XMarks includes Live Tab Syncing too.

gfunkdave Aug 1, 2010 2:43 pm

I've been using Xmarks since it was Foxmarks. It has improved much since then. It no longer slows Firefox to a crawl when syncing, for example. I use it for bookmarks and password sync/backup.

mjm Aug 1, 2010 6:08 pm

May be a silly question but where is all the data that is synched stored? If it is not resident on your computer over which you have control is it not a HUGE potential security breach to store passwords elsewhere?

Hoping I am misunderstanding.......

Thanks in advance from a "just had my first cup of coffee for the day" Mike

mikew99 Aug 1, 2010 6:39 pm


Originally Posted by mjm (Post 14404351)
May be a silly question but where is all the data that is synched stored? If it is not resident on your computer over which you have control is it not a HUGE potential security breach to store passwords elsewhere?

Not a silly question at all. As with services like Yodlee, the passwords are stored on central servers outside of your direct control, so you have to trust the company you send these to. You'll have to determine for yourself whether the benefits of xmarks or ffsync outweigh the potential security concerns.

gfunkdave Aug 1, 2010 6:41 pm


Originally Posted by mjm (Post 14404351)
May be a silly question but where is all the data that is synched stored? If it is not resident on your computer over which you have control is it not a HUGE potential security breach to store passwords elsewhere?

Hoping I am misunderstanding.......

Thanks in advance from a "just had my first cup of coffee for the day" Mike

It's stored on Xmarks's servers. Passwords synced are encrypted with a password you supply, but of course I haven't examined their source code.

This is what they say:


To encrypt your passwords, Xmarks uses the current state of the art AES 256-bit encryption algorithm. AES is a United States government standard and is recommended by National Security Adminstration (NSA) for encrypting classified information. See the AES Wikipedia entry for more details.

AES works by taking data that needs to be encrypted along with a secret PIN of your choosing, and then produces an encrypted result. It is strong enough to virtually guarantee that your encrypted data cannot be decrypted by a third-party, not even Xmarks. The biggest point of weakness is in the strength of the secret PIN that you choose. Xmarks recommends that you choose a PIN that is difficult to guess and contains a wide variety of different characters and numbers.

halfroev2s Aug 1, 2010 6:43 pm

The passwords are also supposed to be encrypted so that Foxmarks doesn't actually have access to them either. Some hacker would have exposed this vulnerability by now if it really existed.

mjm Aug 1, 2010 7:24 pm

Thank you all for the information.

Sounds like it boils down to a judgment call with the general wisdom being that a well selected PIN gives about as much security as one could reasonably expect or need.

Seems a good system and I will have a think about it and my own needs. Really appreciate the timely and complete answers though. ^^

theworld Aug 1, 2010 9:47 pm

I tried Firefox sync and didn't like it.

I use Xmarks, but just for bookmarks.

For passwords I use Lastpass, which works well.

If you are not too keen on Lastpass, do have a look at KeePass.

LIH Prem Aug 1, 2010 11:38 pm

They discuss security on the 2nd link on the OP.

Similar to xmarks, firefox sync uses a passphrase to encrypt your data locally. The data passphrase is not stored in the cloud.

It's not a PIN or a password, it's a passphrase, like a sentence or multiple words.

-David

BonnieSEA Oct 18, 2010 4:05 am

Almost end of the road for XMarks?
 
Last month, XMarks announced that they were going to take their shingle down. So many browsers developing their own syncing, that it could not be profitable for the company to continue. (See "End of the Road for XMarks" or use search engine to query XMarks ending.)

Now they changed their mind; a larger company will absorb them, or it could become a premium service; many users said they were willing to pay $. (See XMarks Victory for the Users.)

choster Oct 20, 2010 9:31 pm

Also see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ks-undone.html


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