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anrkitec Jun 14, 2010 11:58 am


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130520)
Seems like more of a problem with your friends. Trying to read a lot of documents from a laptop, now that is ungainly.

Nope, not my friends. Sitting in an outdoor cafe, a library reading room, and most recently a Crown Room, just watching.

GadgetFreak Jun 14, 2010 12:14 pm

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Originally Posted by anrkitec

Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130420)
No, that is simply your opinion. I think the iPad is better for web surfing

What if your location/hotel/office doesn't have Wifi and there is no 3G signal? I can hook my 2.8 lbs laptop up to a RJ-11 or RJ-45 socket or tether it to my cell to use as a modem. All things that I have actually had a need to do.


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130420)
and reading and watching videos than a computer. Is is vastly easier to use than a net book for these things and a little better than a full size notebook or desktop.

Really, what if you don't have the time or inclination to encode your movies and transfer them to the iPad before a trip? Me, I just throw a couple of DVDs/Blu-Rays into my laptop bag and I am good to go. ;)

Look, my point - all in good humor - is that I have to have a real computer with me anyway so there just isn't anything the iPad does better save for a very few times when a touch screen would add bit of convenience.

I have had to use dial up to but I don't plan my life around it anymore. I don't buy DVDs for the most part and I haven't traveled with a notebook which has a DVD drive for years. Which of those netboks were you referring to which has a Blu Ray player by the way?

Due to the PowerPoint problems i mentioned I am currently traveling with a notebook and the iPad. The main use for the iPad is reading and movies. For me, just being able to read and markup PDFs is worth carrying the thing. It has allowed me to go almost paperless. And scrolling through PDFs on a computer is a real pain. I read 9 NIH research grants I had to review on the ipad a couple weeks ago, saving me from printing about 1000 pages.

anrkitec Jun 14, 2010 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130785)
Which of those netboks were you referring to which has a Blu Ray player by the way?

Netbooks, dunno. Which is why I wrote "laptops/netbooks", thinking here specifically of my Sony TT [an imperfect yet incredibly powerful, small, light, and full-featured tool - oh, and I absolutely hate Sony as a company - but several of their recent VAIOs have been quite good].


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130785)
I read 9 NIH research grants I had to review on the ipad a couple weeks ago, saving me from printing about 1000 pages.

Which could have been done just as easily and, from a supine position for example, more comfortably IMO, on a laptop. ;)

I hope that you understand that I am not trying to make a case that the iPad is not right for you, specifically. Rather I am addressing my comments to a larger audience among some of Apple's more, um, ardent fans, and their giddy public group orgasm over the iPad regardless of what it can't/doesn't do... :D

GadgetFreak Jun 14, 2010 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by anrkitec

Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130785)
Which of those netboks were you referring to which has a Blu Ray player by the way?

Netbooks, dunno. Which is why I wrote "laptops/netbooks", thinking here specifically of my Sony TZ [an imperfect yet incredibly powerful, small, light, and full-featured tool - oh, and I absolutely hate Sony as a company - but several of their recent VAIOs have been quite good].


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130785)
I read 9 NIH research grants I had to review on the ipad a couple weeks ago, saving me from printing about 1000 pages.

Which could have been done just as easily and, from a supine position for example, more comfortably IMO, on a laptop. ;)

I hope that you understand that I am not trying to make a case that the iPad is not right for you, specifically. Rather I am addressing my comments to a larger audience among some of Apple's more, um, ardent fans, and their giddy public group orgasm over the iPad regardless of what it can't/doesn't do... :D

Well I have tried numerous times reading from a laptop. It is very unnatural and scrolling through a 100 page documents sucks. Typing is better on a notebook. Reading just isn't. It's like reading a small hardbound book with the iPad in the apple case. I actually tried reading some without the case and it was much worse I should add.

Non-NonRev Jun 14, 2010 1:29 pm

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Inspired by Jim Rome's show today (one of his funniest ever):

The Eyepad is like the vuvuzela - a lot of people buy and use them - but their users annoy a lot of other people.... ;)

Diplomatico Jun 14, 2010 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by Non-NonRev (Post 14131233)
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Inspired by Jim Rome's show today (one of his funniest ever):

The Eyepad is like the vuvuzela - a lot of people buy and use them - but their users annoy a lot of other people.... ;)

Anyone else see something ironic about "Jim Rome" and "annoy a lot of other people" being in the same post? :D

nkedel Jun 14, 2010 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 14130520)
Seems like more of a problem with your friends. Trying to read a lot of documents from a laptop, now that is ungainly.

I read a lot of documents on my laptop. On one with a good 14"+ high-resolution (1440x900 is a bare minimum; my prior non-wide 1400x1050 was better) screen, it works pretty well. Unfortunately, it's too big to use in coach.

1280x800 12"-13" is marginal; 1024x600 netbook is pretty bad.

One big iPad (or convertible-tablet) advantage is being able to read in portrait mode; if you have an application and content that can reflow text (ie NOT scanned PDF documents!) it can be really nice. For non-reflowable documents, especially scanned ones, the size and resolution is too low.

What I really want is a 14" non-widescreen convertible tablet; Gateway used to make one, but the prices were usurious.

pdxer Jun 14, 2010 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by nkedel (Post 14132336)
What I really want is a 14" non-widescreen convertible tablet; Gateway used to make one, but the prices were usurious.

how about a dual 14" screen tablet ? :)

http://blog.laptopmag.com/kno-tablet...-yet-in-charge

http://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/images/Kno%20at%20D8.jpg

nkedel Jun 14, 2010 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by pdxer (Post 14132792)

Intriguing gimmick, but I wouldn't have a use for it. Purely for work reading, a 13-14" slate would be fine without the second screen, and without the keyboard and ability to switch back to a laptop form factor, you've got no form-factor advantage to the iPad except size.

notquiteaff Jun 14, 2010 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by MAN Pax;
Have you touched one? Hands on for a reasonable time in the store?

It is indeed a thing of wonder and beauty. A lovely shiny bauble. Great screen. Marvelous. I just didn't know what I would use it for.

I am using it to read this thread (and write this post) while having dinner on the road.

planemechanic Jun 14, 2010 11:40 pm


Originally Posted by anrkitec (Post 14130217)
I have no doubt that some will find the iPad to be a thoroughly useful and complimentary device, I never suggested that the iPad didn't have a couple of legitimate uses, not at all. But is this true for "millions" of people, I doubt it.

2 million sold in 59 days, well on their way to 3 million by now, I am sure. So your doubts have been resolved. You were wrong.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/31/app...ds-in-59-days/



Originally Posted by anrkitec (Post 14130217)
But if for example the iPad is for someone really just a sexed-up Kindle, or PSP, or P-DVD player then IMO there really isn't anything all that revolutionary about it, save for the price.

If by this you mean a BMW is just a sexed up pick up truck without the bed then you may have a point. A silly minor point, but I guess it would be a point nonetheless.

LIH Prem Jun 15, 2010 1:56 am

Amazing set of replies as usual.

I can tell you this. I use mine every day. I'm glad I have one, and I like it. Is it absolutely necessary? Of course not. A netbook or laptop will certainly do everything the iPad does, as others have pointed out, and sure, I have several of them too. But I don't take my laptop into my bed and browse the web with it, read periodicals, watch video, play games and check all my incoming email, etc, with it either.

So to answer the OPs question, "Is it worth it?" ...

I think it is for me. I don't know if it is for you. Only you can say that for sure. If you are having trouble thinking you can afford it, that's easy then. Skip it for now.

For some, all they can talk about is how flawed it is. Sure, it's not perfect, it's the first version of something new. The next one will be better, the one after that better than the next one and so on, just like any tech product. Of course it's flawed. It's relatively heavy, it has no camera for video chat, it's fairly expensive for what it is, etc, etc.

It's even quite possible that somebody will eventually have a better execution of it than Apple. The debate is just starting, and nothing here will stop it.

You could have asked the same question when the ipod touch came out. Or when the iphone came out. Or when the microwave oven came out.

-David

nkedel Jun 15, 2010 2:46 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 14134539)
But I don't take my laptop into my bed and browse the web with it, read periodicals, watch video, play games and check all my incoming email, etc, with it either.

People often say that; I do bring mine to bed (heck, pretty much everywhere at home.) My question to those who don't, but who seem to want a computing device in bed is, "why not?" and "why does that not apply to the iPad as well?"


You could have asked the same question when the ipod touch came out. Or when the iphone came out. Or when the microwave oven came out.
I wasn't around for the microwave coming out, although my family didn't get one of those (or cable) until the beginning of the 1990s.

Meanwhile, the difference being that the iPad and the iPhone/iTouch is that PDAs and PDA-phones were pretty well established in 2007 when those came out. The iPhone was competing against an existing market of products whose demand was pretty well established - and it showed that for many people's uses, Apple did it better.

The iPad is not a "better entrant" into an existing broad-market product category; it's only kind of like a couple of existing niche products, few of which have gained mass market traction in the way that Treos and Blackberries and a few WinMo phones had (or Windows PocketPCs and PalmPilots had, in the case of the iTouch) ... but even there, it's not really comparable to any of them.

It's already succeeding in creating its own market, for now; the question is whether anyone else can come up with a useful competing product, and if not, is Apple's market and ecosystem enough on its own.

LIH Prem Jun 15, 2010 2:52 am


Originally Posted by nkedel (Post 14134626)
People often say that; I do bring mine to bed (heck, pretty much everywhere at home.) My question to those who don't, but who seem to want a computing device in bed is, "why not?" and "why does that not apply to the iPad as well?"

Sorry, if it wasn't crystal clear, I was giving my personal opinion and citing the way I use it versus other devices, and not generalizing to the way your or anybody else finds it useful or not useful. So there is no argument or difference of opinion here. I wasn't trying to say what you do or don't do or what you find useful and/or don't find useful. And I certainly hope you weren't trying to say that my opinion of it is wrong for me, right?

To try to answer your question, if there still is one, I just don't find a laptop conducive to the bed environment when laying down on my back or on my side, but for some reason, I find the iPad useful anywhere and find it easy to navigate with the touch screen and single button. Again, not saying this is your opinion or that it applies to you. I am saying that it applies to me.

This entire topic is subjective, right?

-David

sefrischling Jun 15, 2010 3:52 am


Originally Posted by spurg (Post 14127239)
Flying with the iPad is nice since you don't have to take it out of your luggage when you go through TSA. I always hated removing my laptop from my carry on, putting it in a bin, and then zipping it back in.

I have been told to remove my iPad from my bag at EWR, LHR T5 and ORY.

No problem keeping the iPad in my bag at JFK, PVD, BDL, SFO, HVN, PHL.


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