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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:42 pm
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Micro sim card for new iPhone

I am assuming apple will be selling in many countries that don't require a lock to the local carrier. Singapore and Hong Kong are two places (among many) that now sell unlocked phones.

So for the iPhone 4, what happens after you purchase a newly unlocked phone from one of these two countries - and you want to swap for another network when traveling? Are you stuck and can't swap, thereby defeating the whole purpose of selling (or buying) unlocked iPhone?

Or are all the networks coming out with an 'apple micro sim car'?
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:58 pm
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A bit of play with scalpel or stanley knife and you can make one yourself
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
A bit of play with scalpel or stanley knife and you can make one yourself
Too right!

I got my iPhone originally on PAYG with o2, that sim is now sitting in the iPad
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 1:16 pm
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As a side note I suggest ordering a mini sim from a carrier if possible and using this as a guide if your going down the cutting route .

It's a very tight cut and I could feel the scissors grinding against the edge of the sim when doing it.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 3:35 pm
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For those who are nervous about cutting it yourself:

http://www.cutmysim.com/


And to convert back to a normal sim:

http://www.microsim2sim.com/
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dtsm
I am assuming apple will be selling in many countries that don't require a lock to the local carrier. Singapore and Hong Kong are two places (among many) that now sell unlocked phones.

So for the iPhone 4, what happens after you purchase a newly unlocked phone from one of these two countries - and you want to swap for another network when traveling? Are you stuck and can't swap, thereby defeating the whole purpose of selling (or buying) unlocked iPhone?

Or are all the networks coming out with an 'apple micro sim car'?
The market always seems to adapt to this stuff.

http://www.i4u.com/article34869.html (for a tool that lets you cut your regular SIM and also lets you go back to a regular SIM.) It is $25 but if you're going to several countries and have to use several regular SIMs it's not so bad.

And then there's this: http://www.microsim2sim.com/
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 6:45 pm
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I think you will see a lot of countries with carriers who adopt to the microSIM as the iPhone 4 and iPad continue to grow. I would imagine that other manufactures are not far behind as well with phones of their own. It takes a big market mover like Apple to really push out a new technology like this. It gives a foundation to microSIM when a manufacturer will sell 10s of millions of a single device in a year without a threat of retreating the next month and releasing a new device with a regular SIM.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by weekilter
The market always seems to adapt to this stuff.

http://www.i4u.com/article34869.html (for a tool that lets you cut your regular SIM and also lets you go back to a regular SIM.) It is $25 but if you're going to several countries and have to use several regular SIMs it's not so bad.

And then there's this: http://www.microsim2sim.com/
And FT'ers are always the first to know. Many thanks!
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I think you will see a lot of countries with carriers who adopt to the microSIM as the iPhone 4 and iPad continue to grow.
Yes, millions. But still relatively 'small' to the overall market. And Android phones are catching up to iPhones+iPads....could see them surpass apple by year end? And what happens to all the old phones - guess that's our problem....LOL.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by dtsm
And FT'ers are always the first to know. Many thanks!
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Yes, millions. But still relatively 'small' to the overall market. And Android phones are catching up to iPhones+iPads....could see them surpass apple by year end? And what happens to all the old phones - guess that's our problem....LOL.
I realize that, I was probably not as clear as I should have been. The point I was trying to make is that while Apple is a small player in the market they have a lot of power. And because they only release one phone a year that phone has even more power. Look at the Nexus One. It was suppose to be free and open though carriers ended up passing on it because they knew that they could wait a few months and have a superior Android phone fine tuned to their network. Imagine if the N1 has a microSIM, carriers would have been even less eager to pick it up as they would have no guarantee that the standard would stick around and be meaningful in only a few months.
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 10:29 am
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Adam:

I think we actually are in agreement 'on future trends'
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