The next iPhone
 

Anyone planning on getting it when it comes out this summer? I am getting bored with my 3GS and ready for something new. If not the new iPhone someone have other suggestions?

I'm going to in Spetember when I'm eligible to upgrade. I want multitasking and I won't get it on my 3G. :D

I am probably going to get the next iPhone too this summer. I am still on my 3G that I got a few weeks after it came out a couple summers back and had the original iPhone before that.

The HTC EVO, Sprint's first 4G phone is coming out soon and that looks really cool, though I don't live in a 4G area yet so not too interested. Also later in the year you start getting the Windows 7 phones which I think also have potential especially if you want to have real MS Office support on your phone.

getting it.

Likely getting it. I got a 3G right when they came out, and it's been a serious legit business tool. Pretty easy to rationalize the new one. ^

As an AAPL shareholder, allow me to be the first to say: "Thanks!"

I'm dithering. If Apple had decent voice sound quality in the new one I'd do it in a flash (Oh want a bad pun. Sorry, Steve, I'lll never use Flash in my Apples. Never!) The HTC has much better voice quality and a very fast speed so that's the competition for my next phone.

do you mean YOUR voice to the other party, or call quality to YOU as the user? I think rumor has it, that the ip4hdxyz will most likely have some form of noise cancelling mic, making outbound VOICE quality much better. Call quality on the handset is still going to be more dependent on the network.

have the specs for this new phone been announced....?

The whole story's here, assuming it's really the next iPhone. With no denials from Apple, I assume it's the real deal.

The new iPhone is likely to have 720p video according to one story, plus a few other nice features.

Time to defect. I have a great deal with Sprint but at some point even I can't justify using antiquated technology.

The Sprint EVO will do HD video too. Plus it'll have HDMI out, something the iPhone most likely won't.

In every possible way, the EVO is better than anything rumored about the next iPhone.

There is nothing antiqued about EVDO Rev.A and WiMax - especially on a network without the capacity problems that plague AT&T.

+1. I am so looking forward to September.

I think the iphone will have 720p out, which is what the ipad apparently will output. It won't have an HDMI connector per se, but will most likely allow it through some dock or dongle.

I was referring to Sprint's phone lineup, which has always lagged the competition. Yes, sprint has some android phones (still not updated OS :eek:) but the mandatory cost to upgrade my plan will destroy the cost advantages and I will not be able to seamlessly import photos, music or video from iTunes. Not to mention that I like my current lineup of Apps on my iPod touch - some of which are n/a on google.

Sprint is great for people who have grandfathered plans and can use the sprint TV, games etc. on its fast network. Not to mention cheaper family data plans than the comp. But Sprint's great network is useless without a phone that serves our needs. And I simply have not seen a phone that can do what the iphone does plus easily integrates with the rest of my Apple home. Yes I've drunk the coolaid. :D

If sprint does not get an iphone deal this summer (or open it's network to outside phones) the hemmoraging will continue and they will be sold within a couple of years.

Sprint has actually been pretty decent in the past years. They were first with the Touch Pro, first with the Touch Pro 2, and got on board with Android pretty quickly.

I'm just annoyed that I can't add an Android device to my $30/month SERO :(

I think the EVO will be "game changing" - if Sprint can get enough 4G coverage, they'll have a headstart that'll last for 2-3 years.

Sadly, at the end of the day, all that doesn't mean much if you travel to Europe as there are still no GSM/EVDO Android devices :(

too bad the next iPhone still won't have OLED screen.... :(

but if it's available with 64GB of memory, or more, then sign me up. :)

I carry around my 16GB iPhone, and my 64GB iPod Touch, at the same time...

OLED is nice, sharp and great viewing angle, plus lower consumption. BUUUT, it really looks like hs.t outdoors. Basically totally unuseable in my opinion out of doors. AMOLED is a better option, but even then, it doesn't compare outdoors to other current screen types. I really hope they get this fixed in the future.

I'm thinking I'll upgrade either my wife's or mine. I use mine more but you know - if she's happy I'm happy.

The specs sound fine and none of the new phones really are huge leaps ahead. They all seem to slowly add features. I feel it will be some time before we see another leap in technology like we had 2 years ago.

I won't say I'm bored with my 3GS but it would be handy to have multi-tasking as an option. That's the big advantage with the next iPhone as I see it.

True there is nothing antiquated about WImax. Also true that there is nothing positive about it, or real, or present, or any reason whatsoever to spend money on it. It was all a huge pile of hype.

LTE on the other hand is coming faster than anyone expected.

Android on iPhone 3G
 

For those who will switch from a iphone 3G to the new one, hang onto your old phone. They now have Android running on the 3G iPhone, barely. But it should be running well by the time the new iPhone comes out.

See http://www.telecoms.com/20199/androi...-on-iphone-3g/

I'm sorry, but that statement is just bogus. I have CLEAR WiMax here, and I get 6-7Mbit most of the time. That isn't hype - that is real speed that I need on the road. Given your knowledge and experience in this area, I'm amazed you'd call it that.

LTE is great, but nobody in the US is offering it yet, whereas I can get WiMax coverage almost anywhere I travel nowadays.

When LTE is actually available, we can compare it to WiMax - until then, WiMax is the only 4G option out there, making it more than just "hype".

Assuming that within a few months android is able to fully run on the iPhone 3G, does that mean I could put it on my iPhone 3G and use my iDroid when I travel with Pay As You Go SIM cards anywhere around the world?

Everywhere you travel? Bogus statements! Sorry, I have to take you to task there. You must have the most limited travel area of any Flyertalker on this board. WiMax is a complete dud and it ISN"T available anywhere I travel, which is dozens of countries all over the world. In real terms, it exists only in press releases. Clearwire prints up these coverage maps that rarely exist in reality. And Clearwire themselves are switching to LTE because they know that WiMax has no future. Let me repeat NO FUTURE. That is why they have just backed out of their long term WiMax contract with Intel. There are over 2 billion WiFi chips on the market and growing way, way, way faster than WiMax. Realistically there is only 3G, WiFi and LTE, which is available in parts of northern Europe now and working so well that customers say they will never use 3G again.

And I get more than 6-7Mbps over WiFI, but of course that depends on your backend. It has little to do with the radio technology.

Yep, that's what the developers are striving for. Of course you can hack your Iphone today to use pay as you go SIM's.

Stay classy!

My bad - I meant to say "within the US". Sure, there are plenty of places that still don't have Clear, but their coverage maps are certainly not a lie. There are also places where it is pretty much the only solution - try getting a reliable 3G signal in Vegas during CES.

And WiFi is not a solution - hotel WiFi is often too slow, too pricey or just not reliable enough. Last week, my WiFi in Austin would have been $19/day, whereas I got online on CLEAR for $40/month. You can call it all you want, but one million people are using Clear in the US, and they can't all be using a dud without noticing it.

True. However, while I do enjoy tinkering with computers, I'm more inclined to do so when I'm not playing with my primary machine. In this case I'll definitely start hacking my 3G when I get the new one.

Here is a quote from Clearwires's recent quarterly statement. Make of it what you will. Clearwire ended the first quarter with 971,000 total subscribers consisting of 814,000 retail subscribers and 157,000 wholesale subscribers. During the first quarter 2010 Clearwire added 283,000 net new subscriber additions including 172,000 retail additions and 111,000 wholesale additions. Greater than one-third of our wholesale subscribers consist of subscribers on dual mode devices that reside outside of our currently launched markets, but for whom we receive monthly recurring revenue.

I know lots of people who are inside Clearwire's "coverage zones" who cannot get service.

As for your hotel wifi example, you are mixing your technologies. The speed and price hotels offer has absolutely nothing to do with WiFi as a technology. In fact if you replaced the hotel WiFi with hotel Wimax, the price would go up and the poor service stay the same. That's because the service is limited behind the WiFi. WiFi on its own, in the real world, offers just as good service as WiMax.

Mrs Antichef and I both have the 3G and are due for renewal in Aug-Sep. Both will be updated. I do hope the battery life is improved. Not a problem for Mrs A, but for me it certainly is. I hope the simulated multi-tasking is ok, my previous phone was an HTC Touch Pro and it was what I missed with the iphone.

I reckon the iphone does about 90% of what I want better and simpler (and better integrated)than most of the other phones I have seen, so I will stick with it.

I carry my iPhone, but thanks to AT&T's lack of 3G service in many
medium-sized cities, I also carry my Verizon Wireless Android.
(by medium-sized city, I mean cities with populatin of less than
300,000)

Come to think of it, I can do everything on my Android alone,
but I still keep my iPhone... because... well... it's an iPhone! :)

But people don't give a damn about technology. When I travel, I want a reliable speedy connection - I don't care how I get it. All I know is that I hate paying $20/night for barely usable hotel WiFi.

Sure, WiFi offers just as good service, but at the end of the day, my WiMax downtown in Chicago gets me 6mbit whereas the $20 WiFi only gets 1mbit if I am lucky.

WiMax isn't going to get handset support if it's only on Sprint.

Country really needs all 4 carriers and they all need to use the same networking standard.

Although, I heard LTE has a much steeper falloff than 3G in throughput as you get away from the towers.

That's those darn laws of physics getting in the way of a good marketing campaign again. Same thing with 3G and WiMax in-building penetration.

Then why can't I get the Clear Wimax thing to work on my iPhone? Hmmm? People have to care a little bit about technology or they won't get anywhere. Not every hotel has crappy internet service. And some hotels have crappy wired internet. It has nothing to do with WiFi.

withouth admitting to anything... some Japanese love hotels
in Tokyo have really really fast free WiFi service in every room. a "friend"
tested it on a HP laptop and accessed speedtest.net(US server) and got
27mbps down (yes, twenty-seven mbps) and 11mbps up(eleven mbps),
consistently. That was IMPRESSIVE to say the least.

When will U.S. hotel catch up to that? :( come to think of it, I can't even get that kind of
speed at home, even if I'm paying $99 a month)

AT&T v. Verizon
 

Is the talk here of the "next" iPhone referring to the AT&T or Verizon models?

Of course it's related. Our free market telecom infrastructure means the cable cos. and telcos have monopolies aided and abetted by the federal govt., whom they bought off with lobbyists.

So without competition, we pay more for inferior service.

Meanwhile, Japan, Europe and the rest of the world were way behind us, still using dialup when broadband started coming out in the US in the mid to late '90s. Japanese and other govts. were determined to catch up and they allowed unbundled services.

Didn't matter if the telephone company ran the broadband lines. They had to open it up to any ISP who wants to sell connectivity. So they're getting up to 100 Mbps connectivity for less than what we pay for 6 Mbps.

And guess what, they still have a competitive market and the telcos who ran the lines didn't go out of business.

I've seen >50mbit before in a US hotel. It all depends how many people are using it, and how much they have on the backhaul. Plus, speeds like that really are not limited to Asia - I get 50mbit at home too.

No - but WiFi is the technology of choice. In ten years it may be different.

In the hotel industry, Internet access is such a disgrace. Take a look at the Four Seasons - $650/night room with $29.95/night for Internet - that is just pathetic. And in times like that I am happy I have my adapter with me (or use Boingo when I can).