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CKSec Jul 21, 2011 4:17 pm

Toiletry Bag Clarification
 
Hi All,

Wanted to have a small clarification if possible. I have a nice leather Tumi toiletry bag I've had since forever which I generally use for personal items. In the past I have put a plastic zipper bag inside it, where I store my liquids. Recently I have just been leaving the plastic zipper bag inside the leather bag through security and nobody has said something. Am I able to just use the leather toiletry bag and ditch the plastic bag inside or is TSA Just being lax?

Any feedback is appreciated.

azepine00 Jul 21, 2011 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by CKSec (Post 16772605)
Hi All,

Wanted to have a small clarification if possible. I have a nice leather Tumi toiletry bag I've had since forever which I generally use for personal items. In the past I have put a plastic zipper bag inside it, where I store my liquids. Recently I have just been leaving the plastic zipper bag inside the leather bag through security and nobody has said something. Am I able to just use the leather toiletry bag and ditch the plastic bag inside or is TSA Just being lax?

Any feedback is appreciated.

The rules haven't changed but the plastic baggie out one is not always enforced - i had similar experiences recently.

aaronu Jul 27, 2011 7:29 pm

Baby steps. :rolleyes:

If you take the stuff out of your ziploc, it is much easier for a cranky TSA screener to make your life miserable and assume you are "flouting the rules" or "artfully concealing". As long as it stays in the ziploc, they're likely to assume you forgot to remove it. They may think you are dumb or senile but are less likely to hassle you.

That's my .02.

tfar Jul 27, 2011 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by CKSec (Post 16772605)
Hi All,

Wanted to have a small clarification if possible. I have a nice leather Tumi toiletry bag I've had since forever which I generally use for personal items. In the past I have put a plastic zipper bag inside it, where I store my liquids. Recently I have just been leaving the plastic zipper bag inside the leather bag through security and nobody has said something. Am I able to just use the leather toiletry bag and ditch the plastic bag inside or is TSA Just being lax?

Any feedback is appreciated.

The real question here is why you would still take the leather bag. Seriously. Your stuff is contained in a leak-proof plastic bag already. And that's where TSA wants it. So putting it into another leather bag is counterproductive. It makes more work, it goes against TSA rules, it costs more space and it costs more weight. Ditch that leather thing.

Now you will say that you also have a brush and a razor. So do I. But they told me they feel just as well being transported in another ziploc as in one of my fancy toiletry cases. I now only take the toiletry cases if light packing and space saving are of no concern whatsoever. This means I usually only take them for car trips.

Till

antichef Jul 31, 2011 12:17 pm

I'm with Till on this!

... and if you ever come to Europe you can forget your current practice. It is every liquid in a plastic bag and out of the hand baggage. When seen on the xray still in the baggage you will find your bag gets secondary screening and your baggage then goes through again. Not only will you be held up, but I will behind you too!!

I also have a favourite leather wash bag which I have had over 30 years, but is now saved for very rare car journeys - and only then if I can be bothered to remove the items from the plastic bag that they live in during the week!

FlyMeToTheLooneyBin Jul 31, 2011 3:26 pm

Yeah. Echoing the last two posts, I don't use toiletry bags anymore. Since I never check in, my new toiletry bags are made by Ziploc. I prefer the hefty ones with the cool zippers.

Everything goes in, even the dry stuff, like razor, toothbrush, floss, etc... And they're very cheap and easy to replace.

_ABB_ Aug 2, 2011 9:46 am

I still carry a toiletry bag despite the TSA regulation - simply because I like the bag. I keep my items in a zip and keep it the dopp kit. I don't fly as much as some of you all, but I consistently log 50k miles/year and roughly 50% of the TSA agents require it to be 100% out of the dopp kit, others don't say a thing.

danpass Jun 1, 2012 1:22 pm

in the carry-on for my recent trip:

Tumi 22190. Not a word about it and I never took it out.


http://www.danpassaro.com/img/s3/v38/p515589713.jpg

FlyMeToTheLooneyBin Jun 1, 2012 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by danpass (Post 18681158)
in the carry-on for my recent trip:

Tumi 22190. Not a word about it and I never took it out.


http://www.danpassaro.com/img/s3/v38/p515589713.jpg

Your Dove items seem to be large. Are they larger than the 3oz limits? or do they not count as liquids?

danpass Jun 1, 2012 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by FlyMeToTheLooneyBin (Post 18681313)
Your Dove items seem to be large. Are they larger than the 3oz limits? or do they not count as liquids?

I believe individually they are less than 3oz each, as I tried to buy travel size for easy fit in the dopp. I'll check when I get home.

But mostly my care-o-meter registers exactly zero concerning that :D

tfar Jun 1, 2012 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by _ABB_ (Post 16843982)
I still carry a toiletry bag despite the TSA regulation - simply because I like the bag. I keep my items in a zip and keep it the dopp kit. I don't fly as much as some of you all, but I consistently log 50k miles/year and roughly 50% of the TSA agents require it to be 100% out of the dopp kit, others don't say a thing.

Wow! A 50% hassle factor would be way too much for me for what it essentially a vanity in the truest sense of the word. And the more I fly the more I'd want the hassle factor to be low.

That said, I now usually don't take the ziplocs out of my luggage and the hassle factor has only been around 10% or so for that. When they do pick up on it, I apologize saying I forgot and all is cool. Makes security a good bit easier.

After all they are thinking of abandoning the liquid rule altogether.

Till

danpass Jun 1, 2012 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by danpass (Post 18681356)
I believe individually they are less than 3oz each, as I tried to buy travel size for easy fit in the dopp. I'll check when I get home.

But mostly my care-o-meter registers exactly zero concerning that :D

Ok the big bottle is 3.0oz, the smaller one 1.8oz and then the Art of Shaving stuff is 1.0oz and smaller.

The shave can is 2.0
Toothpaste 2.3oz
Afrin at 0.5
and the big Zeasorb is just 2.5

also I've learned to pre-squeeze stuff and seal it up again. If it holds the seal then it'll be ok. If it doesn't it will still be ok because that means the inner pressure will release without letting out the magic stuff.

oshelef Jun 1, 2012 11:43 pm

I'm not quite sold on the idea of a second ziplock for non-liquids toiletries.

- Zip locks inherently hold air or are open. Either you leave it open and stuff can spill, or you close it and may have trapped air.

- Zip locks don't dry well. Maybe it's me, but it's not uncommon for me to get toiletry bags wet, and ziplocks just seem gross if they don't dry.

I tend to use a lightweight, no structure, fabric bag. It let's the air out, it dries, doesn't weigh much.

But I agree that fabric bags that have structure (piping, heavy fabric, leather, etc...) make for wasted space/weight.

quick_dry Jun 4, 2012 11:30 am


Originally Posted by danpass (Post 18682871)
also I've learned to pre-squeeze stuff and seal it up again. If it holds the seal then it'll be ok. If it doesn't it will still be ok because that means the inner pressure will release without letting out the magic stuff.

I try and pack mine so they're sitting upright, then if it has a pressure problem it can't force any of the stuff out.

spinjockey Jun 4, 2012 10:52 pm

I've switched to dry items for my toiletries (no shampoo, no shaving cream, powder toothpaste, bar soap). The only liquid I carry is a small (0.5 oz) bottle of hand sanitizer and I've stopped taking it out for the last 6-8 flights. It looked pretty odd with a tiny baggie about 1"x1.5"...:cool:


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