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the phoenix Jun 2, 2008 11:58 am


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 9806362)
My opinion is my opinion, but I won't discuss it in this thread. I'd be happy to visit the question with you somewhere else (and there has been no shortage of those kind of threads). I appreciate the consideration and concern shown by the posters in this thread, and would prefer to return it in kind.


Please accept my apologies. It was not my intent to seem disrespectful.

Good thread^

PTravel Jun 2, 2008 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by the phoenix (Post 9813665)
Please accept my apologies. It was not my intent to seem disrespectful.

Good thread^

No apology needed, nor did you seem at all disrespectful.

Wow. I thought I'd be the last person to receive a thank you from the mod of Travel with Children. ;)

Happy flying, everyone!

BoyAreMyArmsTired Jun 2, 2008 2:12 pm

It is definitely an interesting thread, and you all are great examples of what makes Flyertalk such a great place to be. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside and stuff. And that's not easy for me to feel on a Monday. :)

the phoenix Jun 2, 2008 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 9806118)
Fortunately, she's never had to go out on the wing ;) We've been very fortunate and part of it is she takes me very seriously (and Mr. BL) and knows the look.

Very cool and thanks for the sharing of info. How old is yours now?

I guess it really comes down to philosophy, parenting and luck to a degree.

A) Philosophy in that I want to engage my child in the world and have him experience differences in culture. Since the pedes Dr gave the OK, the only think he hasn't seen is happy hour:cool:. Thus he's pretty good with knowing how to act, though as you said, not perfect.

b) Parenting- well, hey, we all want to do the right thing. If there is one thing I want to give my kids, its something this world is severely lacking, its consideration of others. None of this culture of me, me, the self serving me.

c) luck....speaks for itself.

As for the bribe, as I said, while its cute, it basically pre-warns your neighbors
that the .... may hit the fan. Meanwhile, your neighbors already knew that the moment they saw you seated nearby.

I always have my earplugs with me. They were a dream whilst my wife was nursing and come in VERY HANDY from time to time in everyday applications.

baglady Jun 2, 2008 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by the phoenix (Post 9815182)
Very cool and thanks for the sharing of info. How old is yours now?

I guess it really comes down to philosophy, parenting and luck to a degree.

A) Philosophy in that I want to engage my child in the world and have him experience differences in culture. Since the pedes Dr gave the OK, the only think he hasn't seen is happy hour:cool:. Thus he's pretty good with knowing how to act, though as you said, not perfect.

b) Parenting- well, hey, we all want to do the right thing. If there is one thing I want to give my kids, its something this world is severely lacking, its consideration of others. None of this culture of me, me, the self serving me.

c) luck....speaks for itself.

As for the bribe, as I said, while its cute, it basically pre-warns your neighbors
that the .... may hit the fan. Meanwhile, your neighbors already knew that the moment they saw you seated nearby.

I always have my earplugs with me. They were a dream whilst my wife was nursing and come in VERY HANDY from time to time in everyday applications.

She's 4 1/2 and my step daughter (who travels a few times a year) is 10. They are both good travelers. I think it helped that I put a lot of thought into it for the months leading into the pregnancy what type of parent/traveler I was going to be. I traveled enough to know what I *DIDN'T* want to be.

A) I agree completely with you on that (by the way, she may have seen a happy hour or two - at least in the P Clubs and concierge lounges ;) ). For us; travel is what bonds our family. My step daughter lives in So Cal so we travel at least once a month to be with her. Could my husband do it without us? Yes. Would that be as a family? No. My parents live in the midwest - again - we travel to see them every other month (they come to see us the other).

I'm an only child; we don't have much family so this is important. It's not like I'm out taking her on MR (okay, it's crossed my mind, but I got over that) but we took her to London at 2 and she had a great time. Not that she'll remember much. But we got to meet us with her Australian cousin whom she met for the first time (we'll be flying to Canada later this Summer to see him for the second time).

I traveled a lot as a child. My first plane ride was at 2 and I had seen the Continental 48 states by the time I graduated High School. I started going to museums on my own at 10 while my dad had business meetings (and no, there is NO WAY I would let my step daughter do that but that was a different time and my mom didn't know!!!). It did so much for me and gave me so much appreciation. I'm pretty sure I was the only person in my art history class who had actually seen most of the paintings we'd studied.

B) I'm old fashioned. I believe a child ought to say please, thank you, yes, ma'am, no, sir, etc. I believe in quiet voices. Indoor voices. Fuss free zones. Then there are the times like swimming pools and beaches where you can run wild and act like a kid because you're in a kid zone. I am not anywhere as strict as my parents were but we started taking our daughter to restaurants when she was a few days old. I would not take her to a 5 star restaurant today because it would be wasted on her. But we go to nice places and she puts a napkin on her lap; sits up like a lady; etc. We go to a place that is a tea house and we go for tea (she has apple juice or water, but whatever). I used to teach etiquette to grade school girls and then to college students. It's sadly deteriorating but there are ways to make it fun and I try to make it fun. She loves the whole hot towel in first class and linens on the tray table because it's different than home.

Good for you for teaching your kids consideration!!! Hopefully this is making a comeback and based on this board - I think it is.

Sorry for the long winded reply - went off a bit.

I am so happy to see how constructive this entire thread has been. ^


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