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DCC / Dynamic Currency Conversion in Thailand
I thought there had been a extant thread but a quick search didn't locate it.
Two weeks ago in the south a resto auto charged me in USD because 'the bank told us to charge in the cc's home country currency'. They apparently didn't read the part on the receipt that says the customer has been offered the option. It took them a good 10 minutes to figure out how to charge my card in baht but they were figuring it out in good faith. The bank was Thana Chart. Today in the north east at Tesco the same thing happened (auto charged to USD though there was no mention whether this was the default). It's bad enough this happens at hotels but clearly it's metastasizing. |
I can sail more or less serenely through (small scale) taxi overcharging. But the DCC scam sends me into a barely-controlled fury at hotel check-outs, and has initiated long-running email exchanges over just a few dollars. If one more agent tries to explain it is a service much-welcomed by their clients ...:mad::mad:
I've always assumed the merchant gets a kick-back from the bank in this scam. It's (pretty much) small beer on an individual basis, but mounts up to a tidy sum across the Tesco network - or on the scale it is employed to scam hotel guests. |
Originally Posted by IAN-UK
(Post 23070872)
I can sail more or less serenely through (small scale) taxi overcharging. But the DCC scam sends me into a barely-controlled fury at hotel check-outs, and has initiated long-running email exchanges over just a few dollars. If one more agent tries to explain it is a service much-welcomed by their clients ...:mad::mad:
I've always assumed the merchant gets a kick-back from the bank in this scam. It's (pretty much) small beer on an individual basis, but mounts up to a tidy sum across the Tesco network - or on the scale it is employed to scam hotel guests. |
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Maybe you are special ;) Even at hotels where I have asked this to be put into my profile, I still sometimes get charged DCC - though that's really not exclusive to TH... |
I have only encountered one merchant asking which currency I'd prefer, and that one is 100% consistent in doing so. And never bats an eyelash when I say baht.
Also only ever had one instance of having a transaction automatically processed in USD without having been asked our preference (beware of Villa markets). The clerk was very non-LOS about it when we insisted on having it voided and reprocessed, especially when the system crashed right after refunding the USD transaction, forcing an old-fashioned manual plate process for the baht transaction :D |
Originally Posted by dsquared37
(Post 23070589)
I thought there had been a extant thread but a quick search didn't locate it.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...er-thread.html |
Originally Posted by IAN-UK
(Post 23070872)
I've always assumed the merchant gets a kick-back from the bank in this scam.
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Same at Chiang Mai Ram Hospital.
When you say nothing or forget to say it, you will be DCC'ed. When you ask to be charged in THB no problem. |
Originally Posted by aBroadAbroad
(Post 23072526)
I have only encountered one merchant asking which currency I'd prefer, and that one is 100% consistent in doing so. And never bats an eyelash when I say baht.
Also only ever had one instance of having a transaction automatically processed in USD without having been asked our preference (beware of Villa markets). The clerk was very non-LOS about it when we insisted on having it voided and reprocessed, especially when the system crashed right after refunding the USD transaction, forcing an old-fashioned manual plate process for the baht transaction :D |
Originally Posted by Diplomatico
(Post 23072959)
It's interesting to see the places where others have experienced this dastardly act. |
Duty Free at BKK airport have to be watched.
I take the initiative now and emphasise baht when i hand the card over and then again when I get to the person actually processing it. Once I've had some BS when not doing this in advance, but it's usually easily solved. |
Originally Posted by ft101
(Post 23075644)
Duty Free at BKK airport have to be watched.
I only use my credit card here in hotels, and since I am nearly always at SGS,.... IME they run the credit card and give you a receipt showing the amounts in THB and USD, as well as the conversion rate (which one could also calculate, of course, on a calculator). Then they ask your preference for the currency in which you'd like to be charged. Seems to work fine for me; but, as I said, my experience is fairly limited. More recently I've been paying in cash (THB). Don't care for the credit card foreign exchange fee on the SPG AMEX. |
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 23078972)
More recently I've been paying in cash (THB). Don't care for the credit card foreign exchange fee on the SPG AMEX.
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
(Post 23079985)
Heresy... paying cash? There are plenty of cards one can use to rack up points effectively (and I also keep my SPG AMEX firmly in pocket even when staying at an SPG property in Bangkok).
Even for SPG points, I would never use an amex overseas (except platinum, of course, which is a whole other ball of wax). Back on topic, I'm surprised how many people have encountered this in Thailand. Even in PRC, which is notorious for DCC, it's just not something I really have encountered. Guess I just jinxed myself there :D |
Originally Posted by aBroadAbroad
(Post 23080020)
Not only effectively, but without any foreign currency fees... CapOne, Chase Sapphire Preferred, Citi Executive AAdvantage all readily come to mind. There is a thread in the credit card forum listing all cards without forex.
Even for SPG points, I would never use an amex overseas (except platinum, of course, which is a whole other ball of wax). Back on topic, I'm surprised how many people have encountered this in Thailand. Even in PRC, which is notorious for DCC, it's just not something I really have encountered. Guess I just jinxed myself there :D |
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