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Old Apr 23, 2017, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
not likely; their direct flight to JFK with premium cabin only was a disaster.
Also SQ withdraw from direct flights
probably with certain new types of A350 possible but likely not with normal cabin lay out
SQ is back to flying SIN->SFO direct on the A350 and doing quite well with it
The only way to run the flights profitably is with Y in the back and the A350 direct from BKK->SFO could probobly work out
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by LordTentacle
SQ is back to flying SIN->SFO direct on the A350 and doing quite well with it
The only way to run the flights profitably is with Y in the back and the A350 direct from BKK->SFO could probobly work out
yes, you are right! the A350 makes this possible. But isn't that a special configured A350?
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 11:49 pm
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Both BKK-LAX and BKK-SFO non-stop full-payload is possible on A350/787 with A350 having the range advantage. Remember BKK is 2.5 hours north of SIN.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by x1234
Both BKK-LAX and BKK-SFO non-stop full-payload is possible on A350/787 with A350 having the range advantage. Remember BKK is 2.5 hours north of SIN.
BKK is just 487 miles less from SFO then SIN
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 2:12 am
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SIN-SFO: 8,446 mi
BKK-SFO: 7,933 mi
SIN-LAX: 8,770 mi
BKK-LAX: 8,269 mi
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
But isn't that a special configured A350?
They're using the normal 359 right now. The ULR hasn't been delivered yet. Both UA and SQ are taking substantial weight penalties on the route right now.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
They're using the normal 359 right now. The ULR hasn't been delivered yet. Both UA and SQ are taking substantial weight penalties on the route right now.
so one can assume that with the normal version, this route can not be profitable...
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Old Apr 25, 2017, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
They're using the normal 359 right now. The ULR hasn't been delivered yet. Both UA and SQ are taking substantial weight penalties on the route right now.
Yes. The only plane that can fly SIN/BKK/SGN reliably beyond SEA/YVR without weight penalties is the ULR. SQ and VN both have them on order. TG does not.
Most of TG comments have mentioned SEA or YVR... and more recently SFO.

My guess is that we'll see TG going into Seattle (and maybe partnering with AS if they are smart.)

VN is almost certainly LAX because of the big Vietnamese American population there.

SQ is SFO and NYC. I don't think they have enough planes on orders to do 3 routes.
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Old Apr 25, 2017, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by x1234
Both BKK-LAX and BKK-SFO non-stop full-payload is possible on A350/787 with A350 having the range advantage. Remember BKK is 2.5 hours north of SIN.
That is the flight time from BKK-SIN. On a great circle route from North America, the difference is far less significant.
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Old Apr 25, 2017, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
not likely; their direct flight to JFK with premium cabin only was a disaster.
Also SQ withdraw from direct flights
probably with certain new types of A350 possible but likely not with normal cabin lay out
Whilst premium heavy I thought there was still a small Y cabin on the tg a340-500
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Old Apr 26, 2017, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by Aussie_flyer
Whilst premium heavy I thought there was still a small Y cabin on the tg a340-500
there is, very small though with 199 seats.
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Old Apr 26, 2017, 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by BennyW
there is, very small though with 199 seats.
are you sure?
my source says, it had 60 business seats, 42 Premium Economy and 113 Economy
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Old Apr 26, 2017, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
are you sure?
my source says, it had 60 business seats, 42 Premium Economy and 113 Economy
my apologies, yes you are right, I was looking at the A340-600.
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Old May 5, 2017, 10:12 pm
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Tangentially related.

http://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vie...s-3572259.html

Also from a different article same source..

"Some 689,000 passengers travelled between Vietnam and the US in 2016, marking an average growth rate of 8.4 per cent per year in the 2010-2016 period. There are no direct routes between the two countries at the moment.

The passengers mainly transit in Taiwan (63 per cent), Incheon - South Korea (12 per cent), Hong Kong (11 per cent), Narita - Japan (3 per cent), Beijing (3 per cent), and Shanghai (3 per cent)."

A couple of takeaways.
  • VN may have a route before TG.
  • Vietnam has slightly better geography than Thailand.
  • VN will have more suitable aircraft 359-ULR than TG
  • This may spur TG to move faster.
  • This is going to hurt BR.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
not likely; their direct flight to JFK with premium cabin only was a disaster.
Also SQ withdraw from direct flights
probably with certain new types of A350 possible but likely not with normal cabin lay out
this quote was rather prescient!!
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