TG679 Runway incident at BKK
 

According to Flightradar24, a Thai A330, inbound from CAN as TG 679, has overrun on landing at BKK.

Initial photos show that the nosegear appears to have collapsed; reversers still deployed; slides also deployed; there appears to be a fire on the right side of the aircraft.


We've just received reports that Thai Airways flight 679 from Guangzhou, China to ท่าอากาศยานสุวรรณภูมิ | Suvarnabhumi Airport BKK in Bangkok, Thailand has crash landed.

The plane, an Airbus A330, is seen on the picture with the emegergency slides deployed. However, it's unknown what caused the crash landing. It's also unknown if there have been any injuries or fatalities

The link below shows the final moments before the crash landing:

Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Same words posted earlier on PPRuNE: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ident-bkk.html

Um, this is not a "crash landing." Terribly misleading thread title.

+1

"Runway Excursion" seems to be the acceptable term.

On Thai TV here they have been using "crash landing". ;)

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/...bhumi-airport/

ah TG!

covering up the logo.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...runway/page-2/

Pathetic of Thai
 

Isn't it just unbelievable but, sadly, typical of Thai, to want to cover up the logo and the airline's name on the aircraft. This pathetic attempt to, no doubt, mitigate the adverse impact on Thai's reputation is laughable...totally laughable.

Does the management really believe that observers will not recognise this as a Thai Airways piece of metal? They would probably have covered the name and logo on the A380 at Hong Kong after the air turbulence incident if the HKIA authorities had allowed them to do so!!!

What kind of lunatics do they have running this airline?

This will only serve to heap ridicule on the airline and its management....:mad:.....ridicule that is richly deserved!!

The maintenance crew deployed to carry out this task could have helped to make the aircraft secure quicker and thereby speed up the delivery of the passengers' luggage but, of course, that is not as important as protecting Thai's reputation...unbelievable, just unbelievable!

555 How is this landing not a crash?

Poe-tay-toe Poe-tat-toe

Most airlines do cover up Logo's etc after an incident... It is not specific to Thai..

I agree. The covering of the logo and name smack of denial and it's completely inconceivable anyone would not identify the machine as belonging to TG. Some airlines may have a "cover the corporate branding" rule, but many do not (consider BA 777 at LHR and QF 744 at DMK, then BKK). As to how effective such a strategy is, one need only consider this thread and the news media coverage of TG covering up the logos - if this was such a normal thing, it wouldn't be news.

Very good news that no one was injured.

AFAIK - It is the practice of airlines worldwide to remove the logo once the planes have suffered damage.

I would not say this is cover-up.

From Thai news.

The initial investigation into the accident that saw a THAI aircraft skidding off the runaway while trying to land at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport on Sunday has revealed it was caused by a problem with the back right landing gear.

Department of Civil Aviation director general Voradej Harnprasert said this caused the plane to lose balance and skid off the runway. The slide resulted in the engine on the right wing to make contact with the ground, causing sparks and fire at the body of the plane.

News link

Meh, this is absolutely NORMAL!

Given that an accident at a remote airport happens, it usually takes longer for the airline representatives to overpaint the crashed airplane, but in this case, at the home airport, they obviously could do the paintjob much easier. This has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Thailand/Thai. It's weird that with a nickname including "Thai" you try to blame TG here for something that is absolutely normal. Did a TG FA dumped you recently? :D

By the way, I was on this very flight on the Guangzhou route about 3 weeks ago :D

No significant delays in the departures for Europe last night - well done TG.

AOT: Repair work on runway to be completed on Sep 11 after THAI accident

BANGKOK, 9 September 2013 (NNT) - Airports of Thailand has announced that due to the closure of parts of the eastern runway at Suvarnabhumi Airport following an accident on Sunday, most flights will be delayed by 30 minutes.

AOT board chairman Sita Divari said the clean-up operation should be completed by Wednesday. As the runway is open only to small aircraft, about 35 flights had been delayed on Monday morning.

He added that Don Mueang and U-Tapao airports have been selected as back-up airports in a bid to facilitate passengers.

An Airbus 330-300 operated by Thai Airways International skidded off the runway at Bangkok's main international airport after the nose wheel collapsed on landing late Sunday night.

The flight from Guangzhou, China, was carrying 288 passengers and 14 crew members. Passengers were evacuated using emergency slides and the 14 injured were sent to a Bangkok hospital.

The incident came after another accident involving a Thai Airways plane late last month when about 20 passengers and a cabin attendant on a THAI A-380 flight to Hong Kong were injured during strong turbulence.


-- NNT 2013-09-09


THAI issues statement on accident at Suvarnabhumi Airport

BANGKOK: -- Thai Airways International on MOnday issued a statement, clarifying the accident that its TG 679 from Guangzhou, China, skidded off the runway upon landing at Suvarnabhumi Airport on Sunday night.

Sorajak Kasemsuvan, THAI President, said that on September 8, flight TG 679, operated with Airbus A330-300 aircraft, departed from Guangzhou to Bangkok at 9.25pm (local time in Guangzhou) and arrived in Bangkok at 11.20pm.

"After touchdown at Suvarnabhumi Airport, the landing gear malfunctioned and caused the aircraft to skid off the runway. Sparks were noticed from the vicinity of the right landing gear near the engine; the matter is under investigation," read the statement.

The captain took control of the aircraft until it came to a complete stop and passengers were evacuated from the aircraft emergency exits. The operation was conducted by the captain and cabin crew strictly according to emergency procedures.

The aircraft carried 288 passengers and 14 cabin crew. Initially, 13 passengers received minor injuries while evacuating the aircraft. THAI staff provided assistance to passengers and transfer those injured to hospital. THAI will conduct an investigation as to the cause of the incident.

THAI regrets any inconvenience to passengers. For more information, passengers may contact the Company's Crisis Management Operations Center (CMOC) at Tel. 02-545-3181, 24-hours a day.


-- The Nation 2013-09-09



Aircraft is HS-TEF, christened place-name Song Dao (in Sakhon Nakhon), which might mean "two stars"?

https://secure.flickr.com/photos/417...08/9705227707/


Some people have commented that it is in the Star Alliance incident mitigation playbook to mask the *A logo, and the carrier logo to minimize subsequent negative social media exposure, and to make people arriving/departing feel less worried to fly the affected carrier. Maybe if they had used white paint, and done a slightly more professional job...nope, still comes across as silly.

Now we know what to call those 13 train derailments on the Bangkok - Chiang Mai route so far this year: Track Excursions.

Just correction. Song Dao | ส่องดาว means "To observe the stars".

Agree with others here. removal of airline logos on an aircraft that has crashed or whatever you want to call this, is completely normal and TOTALLY understandable. No airline wants plane load after plane load of people passing a downed aircraft with their company logo on it.

Why not a few words of congratulations on the crews handling of the incident. The evacuation seems to have been carried out well and nobody has lost their life. A few injuries during emergency evacuation of an airliner are expected due to the height of the slides.

So... well done to the crew on getting everyone out alive. It could have been a lot worse.

How about a few examples of other carriers that have blacked-out their airline name and logos on aircraft within hours of a significant incident?

I ask because I don't recall seeing it from a major airline before.

SAS SK751 in 1991 near Stockholm to name one.

So one example from 22-years ago?

The BA 777 that crashed landed at LHR in 2008 stayed on the runway for quite some time and I don't remember any blacking out of the BA logo .
Same for the Asiana crash at SFO .

TG679 Crash Landing at BKK
 

most recent similar case (in relation to painting the aircraft after incident)

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130202-0

however they painted the whole plane in white color over night. not only the corporate logos/names.

i understand painting a/c and its normal to the industry. however only the logo but not the whole airframe, like in this case, makes no deeper sense to me. everyone can identify this as a THAI aircraft still.

true and yes, Aussie_flyer, gratulations to the aircrew avoiding worse.

...cannot recall Asiana painted its 777 in the recent case?

Anybody know if there are still delays. Flying to BKK in a couple of hours.

TG679 Crash Landing at BKK
 

just passed the site (on my way to my mext flight).

HS-TEF sits very near to the runway, half way down 19L - basically just off the middle of the runway. still now, lots of vehicles and crew attending the plane. no wonder they had to limit 19L for small aircraft only...

Asiana did not alter the aircraft at SFO after the crash. It sat next to the runway for a few days before being removed to another part of the airport, where it was still visible.

In fact, other than these two examples (one of which is rather ancient in aviation terms and the other is a turbo-prop on a regional flight), I am not aware of any custom or standard in concealing airline logos when an incident occurs.

TG679 Crash Landing at BKK
 

@5khours

just checked the announcements at departure board at BKK.
very few delays. if any, not more than 30mins, except ET to KUL which is delayed a lot. i didnt see any TG flight to be announced delayed.

Maybe an idea to overpaint the orchid with the Lufthansa logo or British Airways for total coverage

There was a Delta commuter plane at St George Utah last year where a pilot broke into the airport at night, started the plane and then committed suicide on board.

Logos were very quickly covered, if you search for news reports from that incident I'm sure you will see the very anonymous plane with the tail logo gone.



Edited to Add: After looking at the TG incident photos not sure what the point of blacking it out was, given the distinctive livery!

pitiful
 

Painting out the name is an old maritime tradition. If they didn't do that people would still be talking about the Titanic.
Maybe it is time for a new tradition: "It is what it is".

i wonder how much this incident was caused by the landing gear and what is the contribution of the miserable runway

Love the caption for the photo in this article:

Looks like a stabilized approach for normal landing and touchdown with malfunctioning landing gear causing them to head off into the weeds. Doesn't look like a crash to me.

I have no examples, but this is the standard, more than the exception. They rush and the first thing done is painting over of the logos (often the unique branding stripes/colors too).

I'll lend you my glasses! :D

Not in my experience.

Several people, even just on this thread, have recalled just such happening as procedure, not as an isolated incident.


I will edit and post more as I find them

http://www.addictlab.com/home/projec...ne?groupid=136

In fairness, there really wasn't anything left to cover up on the Asiana flight. The tail was already gone and much of the fuselage burned. And they did move the plane relatively quickly to somewhere that was less visible to most of the airport.

Also for people questioning about covering up the plane, how many planes survive a crash in good enough shape that there's much left to cover up? Fortunately there aren't too many that crash and then only a small subset of those still have the logo intact after the crash. That might be why you don't see this that often but as others have noted, it isn't unusual.

That logo covering happened pretty quickly.

One would think that after preservation of life has been accomplished / achieved, the next step would be securing of the scene for the appropriate accident investigation to take place.

Allowing a representative through the scene would not be a normal Accident Investigation practice. They'd have to be observed and monitored to prevent the alteration and destruction of evidence.