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expert7700 Apr 15, 2020 1:15 am

I should have searched on this instead of spending an hour editing my posts on mobile phone.

copy pasting the oroginal text into notepad to remove any encoding worked best. However, the minute I edit my post, or someone else quotese, all the https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined links are back

KathyWdrf Apr 15, 2020 1:37 am

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedHappens on Microsoft Edge as well. :eek:

Dave Noble Apr 15, 2020 4:50 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 32294394)
It was not broken: it did not need to be fixed
{Gone to back to basic editor, which I prefer for some formatting}

Trouble is - the basic editor leads to other bugs that were added recently - but when reported , the attitude was to use the other editor

Now you have to choose your preferred bugs

Silver Fox Apr 15, 2020 5:15 am

Dear Admins, please back out whatever you changed recently! :)

Adam Smith Apr 15, 2020 8:02 am

This is showing up in PMs as well.

krazykanuck Apr 15, 2020 8:18 am

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Originally Posted by KathyWdrf (Post 32294719)

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedWhat's that? :p

IBJoel Apr 15, 2020 9:02 am

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Originally Posted by Adam Smith (Post 32295336)

Testing

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ction-usa.html

IBJoel Apr 15, 2020 9:05 am

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32295527)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedTesting

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/2015803-advice-ba-aa-connection-usa.htmlhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Testing on FF

IBJoel Apr 15, 2020 9:07 am

I don't see anything on Chrome desktop or mobile, but it's pretty bad on FF.

Will report to tech with high priority

moondog Apr 15, 2020 9:08 am

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32295527)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedTesting

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/2015803-advice-ba-aa-connection-usa.htmlhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Why can't you guys simply roll back to the last stable release and debug in parallel? (This is how most internet facing companies do things.)

IBJoel Apr 15, 2020 9:12 am

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32295556)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedWhy can't you guys simply roll back to the last stable release and debug in parallel? (This is how most internet facing companies do things.)https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedhttps://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefined

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/undefinedI was not made aware of any updates or releases we were planning on. And as I'm not a tech person, you're talking to the wrong guy in terms of what that means (and even if I knew what it meant, I don't have the ability to do it).

SJCFlyerLG Apr 15, 2020 9:20 am

And as you can see, the blurb just appeared in your reply.

Zorak Apr 15, 2020 10:27 am


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32295578)
I was not made aware of any updates or releases we were planning on. And as I'm not a tech person, you're talking to the wrong guy in terms of what that means (and even if I knew what it meant, I don't have the ability to do it).

But you can communicate with the tech people and pass things on, right? :idea:

What moondog is getting at is that it should be fairly trivial to see what changes have been pushed in the last week or so, since this only recently started happening. Does the tech team notify you of every single code change to the site or only when a large batch of changes or things they think will significantly or noticeably impact the user experience? (i.e. is it possible they periodically push what they think will be tiny changes or tweaks without making a big deal about it?)

Because IME as a software developer (just guessing as a black box observer based on the symptoms since I don't have access to the source code) the most likely explanations are

1. Some change to the FT software did get pushed recently and is directly responsible (I note that a lot of these appear as IMG tags with undefined URLs, when quoting posts that had no images to begin with -- so maybe this is something about tracking pixels or beacons?)

2. Some third party library that the FT software depends on, and gets packaged up and then served from the FT servers, was updated to a new version and has a change that is incompatible/returns unexpected results in some situations and leads to the problem we observe

3. Some third party library that the FT software depends on but is served directly from the third party server via a link (this would be some kind of JavaScript package) was updated to a new version unbeknownst to the techs, and has a change that is incompatible etc.

The solution to (1) or (2) is simply to roll back the code to the previous version (once it's identified, this should be easy for the techs)

The solution to (2) or (3) is to pin dependencies to a specific version or major version of the third party package, i.e. there are ways to say use any version that is 2.9.x for any x but do not upgrade to 2.10.anything since that is when breaking changes may be introduced into the third party library.

(Note that (2) is sort of a combination of (1) and (3))

Not saying these are the only possibilities, but they seem like the primary candidates IMO.

Also there needs to be (if there isn't already) a staging environment where these changes/fixes can be tested and verified, before being pushed to a production server.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1e03e584f1.jpg

wco81 Apr 15, 2020 10:32 am

And the other thing is in some threads, when you click to load the next page of the thread, you get "Are you sure you want to leave this page" dialog boxes.

This is on Safari.

IBJoel Apr 15, 2020 11:01 am


Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG (Post 32295608)
And as you can see, the blurb just appeared in your reply.

Testing


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