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MSPeconomist Apr 26, 2016 12:47 pm

Periodic FT issues (crash, Cloudflare, database errors) - DDoS attack, cf wiki
 
I've been getting the database error page constantly until a couple minutes ago. I think it started about an hour ago for me and was consistent across various fora and threads that I tried.

Yet when I scam the main page of some very active fora, I notice posting gaps of only about twenty minutes.

Doesn't the site go down for everyone simultaneously?

BTW, I'm using an ipad2 with safari.

IBobi Apr 26, 2016 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 26538486)
I've been getting the database error page constantly until a couple minutes ago. I think it started about an hour ago for me and was consistent across various fora and threads that I tried.

Yet when I scam the main page of some very active fora, I notice posting gaps of only about twenty minutes.

Doesn't the site go down for everyone simultaneously?

BTW, I'm using an ipad2 with safari.

It was down for about 7 minutes this morning.

hi-guy May 9, 2017 10:44 pm

Started about 10m ago (the time it took me to get a response to Search and to post this):

Database error
The database has encountered a problem.
Please try the following:
Load the page again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser.
Open the www.flyertalk.com home page, then try to open another page.
Click the Back button to try another link.
The www.flyertalk.com forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them if the problem persists.

We apologise for any inconvenience.

corporate-wage-slave Jul 26, 2018 6:24 am

I know there is heavy Denial of Service workload today but I'm getting more than my fair share of database errors in the last hour, so from say 11:30 GMT.

arlflyer Jul 26, 2018 6:50 am

Browser checks and DB errors all over the place this morning.

gfunkdave Jul 26, 2018 7:09 am

Keep getting CloudFlare DDOS Screen
 
Just today when I initially visit flyertalk.com (by opening a new tab and going to the site) I keep getting a "Checking your browser..." from CloudFlare DDOS for a few seconds. What's going on?

T8191 Jul 26, 2018 7:11 am

Chaotic here this morning, with Cloudflare being a likely suspect.

T8191 Jul 26, 2018 7:15 am

I’ve been getting it when changing Pages in the same Thread. As for trying to amend/repair Trip Reports, forget it for today ... simply unworkable.

CloudFlare has also now infested another one of IB’s brands ,., PPRuNe.

I’m getting very tired of waiting 5 seconds for this disruptive application to do its work whilst browsing IB’s Forums.

gobluetwo Jul 26, 2018 7:21 am

It was definitely longer than 5 seconds for me when trying to access FT this morning.

pvn Jul 26, 2018 7:32 am

Getting a lot of "Checking your browser" cloudflare screens all of a sudden. Extremely annoying.

DoTheBartMan Jul 26, 2018 7:34 am

I also see the CloudFlare prompt, and for a while I kept getting the "Database error" screen instead of getting the forum pages after the CloudFlare check.

gfunkdave Jul 26, 2018 7:34 am

I've also been seeing the database error screen periodically.

COSPILOT Jul 26, 2018 7:36 am

Same for me this morning, and both my phone and pc. The CloudFlare prompt is super annoying, as is the database error when opening certain pages.

swingaling Jul 26, 2018 7:43 am

Same here. It's really obnoxious and disruptive.

T8191 Jul 26, 2018 7:53 am


Originally Posted by pvn (Post 30015170)
Getting a lot of "Checking your browser" cloudflare screens all of a sudden. Extremely annoying.

And 2 new Threads on the subject in this Forum.

Not sure whether a thread merge is appropriate, as this Cloudflare thing isn’t ‘redesign’ as such. Just IT people at play, for some reason or other. Also happening on at least one other IB Forum.

florens Jul 26, 2018 8:19 am

Same here. On PC/Chrome and iPhone/Safari. Very annoying.

CPRich Jul 26, 2018 9:01 am

Getting kind of tired of cut/pasting every post into Notepad because there's only a 50% chance the posts/edits will work.

ksm06 Jul 26, 2018 9:10 am

Add me to the frustrated list. So annoying,on my iphone and also on laptop with Chrome.

fredc84 Jul 26, 2018 9:12 am

Report “Database Error” incidents here
 
This issue just started this morning. When I click on my flyertalk link it gives me a database error. I can click again and it will eventually let me on the site. Once in, clicking on various threads and/or my favorites also, sometimes, gets this error. Was there a change to FT over night?

fredc84 Jul 26, 2018 9:14 am

LOL, actually posting the above post caused the error page to show up.

wrp96 Jul 26, 2018 9:20 am


Originally Posted by DoTheBartMan (Post 30015178)
I also see the CloudFlare prompt, and for a while I kept getting the "Database error" screen instead of getting the forum pages after the CloudFlare check.

I'm getting both constantly.

krazykanuck Jul 26, 2018 10:17 am

Oh the irony

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3899d36e76.png

SanDiego1K Jul 26, 2018 10:33 am

I've experienced it myself. I sent a note to [MENTION=359244]IBobi[/MENTION].

JDiver Jul 26, 2018 10:37 am

2 Attachment(s)
There is some database instability this morning (PDT); it has been reported to Internet Brands. Database instability is occasionally a precursor to a crash and temporary suspension of service. It can be caused by external factors, such as a Distributed Denial of Service attack. (In that case, you maybget a Cloudflare intercept while it’s fighting the attack; this may result in a redirect to another page than the one you were on.)

If you are posting anything, be sure to select all and copy to save the information and post again if you get a database error when attempting to save the post data.

Thank you for reporting this.

JDiver, Co-Moderator

JDiver Jul 26, 2018 11:04 am

We are under a DDoS (Distributed Denial Of Service) attack; this has been reported to Admin.

For the moment, if you are replying to a post or adding a post, select and copy your post content prior to saving so you won’t lose your work should you get a Database Error call, or redirected to the FT front page by Cloudflare, when you try to save the post.

JDiver, Co-Moderator

P.S. Non-contributive, disruptive or off topic posts will be deleted, as standard policy.

dergon darkhelm Jul 26, 2018 11:18 am

add me to the list

both the "5 seconds" thing and lots of database errors.

IBJoel Jul 26, 2018 11:24 am

Tech is working on this. Thank you for your patience, everyone.

IBJoel Jul 26, 2018 11:25 am

We've had tech working on it for about an hour or two, thanks for the head's up!

IBobi Jul 26, 2018 11:26 am

Nothing we can do about this one, folks. It'll stop when the attack ends.

Just FYI, we pay Cloudflare a lot of $ to keep the site up during these attacks. They're our protector.

MSPeconomist Jul 26, 2018 11:30 am

Checking your browser before accessing FT
 
Twice today I got a page I've never seen before:

"Checking your browser before accessing flyertalk.com"

"This process may take...."

I've never seen this before and I was using my usual iPadPro with Safari. It happened once on a wifi network that's been giving me trouble today (but which I have used in the past) and now again using my iPhone as a personal hotspot.

What does it mean and what is FT doing to "check" my browser?

sbm12 Jul 26, 2018 11:31 am

It is Cloudflare doing the checking. It is making sure you're a real human and not a bot. And I'm getting it a lot more today as well.

I'm also getting a bunch of database errors today. :(

See also: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...os-screen.html

Mr. Vker Jul 26, 2018 11:41 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 30015934)
It is Cloudflare doing the checking. It is making sure you're a real human and not a bot. And I'm getting it a lot more today as well.

I'm also getting a bunch of database errors today. :(

See also: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...os-screen.html


Ditto

T8191 Jul 26, 2018 11:44 am


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 30015915)
Nothing we can do about this one, folks. It'll stop when the attack ends.

Just FYI, we pay Cloudflare a lot of $ to keep the site up during these attacks. They're our protector.

Thanks for the clarification ^

Oh, well, back to Angry Birds and War Robots!

JDiver Jul 26, 2018 11:44 am

There is a DDoS / Distributed Denial of Service attack on (at least) FlyerTalk and PPRuNe today. Cloudflare is a service that fights and suppressed DDoS. Until the attack is ended, we will likely be getting Database Error messages or / and Cloudflare intercepts - the latter can end in a frustrating redirect to the FT main page.

If you’re posting anything, select all and copy, so you don’t lose your work if you get a redirect.

IB Admin is well aware of the issue and it is being worked on.

Thank you for your patience.

JDiver, Co-Moderator

lin821 Jul 26, 2018 11:45 am

It has to do with Cloudflare...
 
See admin's most recent reply from the other thread:


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 30015915)
...
Just FYI, we pay Cloudflare a lot of $ to keep the site up during these attacks. They're our protector.


MSPeconomist Jul 26, 2018 11:52 am


Originally Posted by lin821 (Post 30015987)

Thanks. I saw that thread and didn't suspect from the title that it was related.

COSPILOT Jul 26, 2018 2:05 pm

Maybe a horribly stupid question from me, but what would be beneficial of a hacker doing something with FT?

IBJoel Jul 26, 2018 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by COSPILOT (Post 30016471)
Maybe a horribly stupid question from me, but what would be beneficial of a hacker doing something with FT?

shrug.gif

COSPILOT Jul 26, 2018 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 30016486)
shrug.gif

I can see it now. "Hey guys, we hacked a very popular website, used by travel obsessed individuals and confirmed they are obsessed with how to travel."

zitsky Jul 26, 2018 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 30016486)
shrug.gif

Came here to research and comment on this issue. Yes I understand what it is. It's still annoying. I would expect a more serious response from a/the IB representative, something more than just "whatever".


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