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cactuspete Oct 25, 2001 11:21 am

Multiple Page OMNI Threads
 
I have noticed over the past few days that on multiple page OMNI threads, the page number of the last page of the thread is not showing on the OMNI forum page. For instance, a thread may be 3 pages long, but only Page 1 and 2 are showing on the OMNI forum page. So to get to Page 3, you have to open page 2 first. Not a big deal, and this has not been happening consistently. If I notice it again today I will provide a link.

Another minor annoyance that I have experienced recently is that after viewing an OMNI thread, I am returned to FlyerTalk Travel rrather than FlyerTalk Miles. I know that this is not just on those threads that were originated in Travel, because several are threads that I originated myself on the Miles board.

Thanks.

doc Oct 25, 2001 12:08 pm

Yes, you beat me to it, C-pete! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif It seemingly got quite a bit worse this morning as well for me. And the SEARCH feature for OMNI is of course still ineffective, as it seems due to the crossing multiple boards of the OMNI forum I think! Thanks! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

dan at WebFlyer Oct 25, 2001 1:38 pm

We're currently updating threads for all the boards, so this may have something to do with it. The update is a long one, and may take a day or two, but once it's done, we'll check this out.

Thanks for the heads-up...

cactuspete Oct 25, 2001 1:44 pm

Here's a thread that is exhibiting these problems as of just a few minutes ago.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/001057.html


dan at WebFlyer Oct 26, 2001 11:09 am

Cactus & Doc... are you still getting those misnumbered thread problems (displays 2 pages when there are actually 3, etc)? I've just gone up and looked around OMNI, including the link you gave, and I haven't been able to duplicate the problem. I see threads with 2 pages listed, and when I click into the second page, that seems to be the last page.

Cactus, about your first post, where you state that you're returned to FT Travel, even though you started in FT Miles... Can you give me a URL example I can check out? It should function that whatever main Forum you start an OMNI thread in (Miles, Travel, etc) is where that particular thread will "live" from then on.

Doc, as for the search problems... I did notice a bunch of broken pages. We're tweaking the search funtion and rebuilding the indexes, and this should fix those broken pages.

blackjack-21 Oct 27, 2001 10:34 pm

Dan,

As some of the others here, I'm also getting switched over to FT Travel while I'm in Omni on Ft Miles. It just happened twice now.

bj-21.

dan at WebFlyer Oct 29, 2001 11:29 am

bj-21, can I get a URL or thread title that's doing this and I'll check it out.

blackjack-21 Oct 29, 2001 12:10 pm

Dan,

It doesn't happen every time,so it's hard to know when it will happen--and it happens after I click off the Omni to go the the next forum, usually trying to go to In The News. But I'll try to get the URL if I can.

Thanks,

bj-21.

cactuspete Oct 30, 2001 3:18 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
Cactus & Doc... are you still getting those misnumbered thread problems (displays 2 pages when there are actually 3, etc)? I've just gone up and looked around OMNI, including the link you gave, and I haven't been able to duplicate the problem. I see threads with 2 pages listed, and when I click into the second page, that seems to be the last page.

Cactus, about your first post, where you state that you're returned to FT Travel, even though you started in FT Miles... Can you give me a URL example I can check out? It should function that whatever main Forum you start an OMNI thread in (Miles, Travel, etc) is where that particular thread will "live" from then on.
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It has not been as much of a problem recently, but it just happened to me on this Barry Bonds thread in OMNI: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/002232.html . It is 3 pages long, but the OMNI forum page shows only 2 pages. And it returns me to Travel.

cactuspete Oct 30, 2001 3:55 pm

30 minutes later, no problem now! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif

dan at WebFlyer Oct 30, 2001 4:22 pm

but you didn't even give me a chance to check it out! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Are you accessing FT from behind a company firewall? Did you do anything with your browser between the times FT wasn't working and when it worked again?


cactuspete Oct 30, 2001 11:29 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
Are you accessing FT from behind a company firewall? Did you do anything with your browser between the times FT wasn't working and when it worked again?

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No.

No, not that I know of.

I am beginning tothink it is just something on my end, although doc apparently experienced a similar problem. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif Not a big deal. Thanks for looking into it, and I'll keep my eyes open for another occurrence.

blairvanhorn Oct 31, 2001 1:08 am

To reassure Cactuspete, this has been an ongoing "problem" for me (not really a problem, can't think of another word, perhaps inconvenience and even that sounds strong).

I will access a multiple-page OMNI thread from the FT Travel section. After reading posts, I find myself returned to the FT Travel section.

Also, the FT Travel section often lists OMNI posts as having more pages than they do (# of pages +1).

I am not using a firewall and my sessions at FT are not interrupted by visits to other sites (at least not in these cases).

Mac G4 Cube, IE 5.01

dan at WebFlyer Oct 31, 2001 11:58 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by blairvanhorn:I will access a multiple-page OMNI thread from the FT Travel section. After reading posts, I find myself returned to the FT Travel section. </font>
But that's what you want, right? You start in Travel, and end up in Travel? Or do you mean you start in FT Miles, but end up in Travel?



<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Also, the FT Travel section often lists OMNI posts as having more pages than they do (# of pages +1).</font>
We _may_ have fixed that by reindexing the threads last week. If not, it could be because the Forums all use a unique index to list the threads, and they aren't all updated when one's OMNI is... I'll check on that.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Mac G4 Cube, IE 5.01</font>
Btw, how do you like your cube? I haven't seen one in action yet...

blairvanhorn Oct 31, 2001 2:34 pm

Sorry about the confusion, Dan. I did mean that I start in FT Miles but I am returned to FT Travel.

As I said, it's no big deal, just sort of odd.

The G4 Cube: very nice. It's not all that expandable, but the size, looks and lack of fan noise are all great. The series that I have experienced a problem with the touch activated on/off switch. It was a hardware default, but getting Apple to admit this and repair it was a long process. The only way I found out that Apple was fixing the problem was at the helpful website www.macfixit.com

Thanks again for all your work at FlyerTalk.

doc Nov 5, 2001 12:14 pm

FWIW, this is one of those threads that somehow appeared to do a "switcheroo!" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/003256.html

dan at WebFlyer Nov 7, 2001 3:37 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doc:
FWIW, this is one of those threads that somehow appeared to do a "switcheroo!" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/003256.html
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When I click on that, I end up in FT Travel's OMNI. Is that what happens to you? Which OMNI did you start in?

cactuspete Nov 7, 2001 3:51 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
When I click on that, I end up in FT Travel's OMNI. Is that what happens to you? Which OMNI did you start in?</font>
And in which OMNI did you originally start the thread?

dan at WebFlyer Nov 7, 2001 4:12 pm

Here's what we think is going on:

Whatever Forum you start an OMNI thread in (be it FT Miles, FT Travel, FT Airports, or FT Dining) is the Forum that "owns" it from then on. This is regardless of where you post a reply from. So, if I start an OMNI thread in FT Travel, and you view it from FT Miles, and even reply to it from there, you'll still end up in Travel's OMNI.

This is a side-effect if using a single OMNI across multiple Forums... When UBB starts a thread, it creates an HTML template based on the Forum you started in. This template wraps around the actual post content and stays with it from then on. There may be a chance that when we update threads across all the boards (which we haven't done too much lately, due to the increase in performance) that the ownership will change, but I doubt it. Of course, the next time we update, we'll see...

cactuspete Nov 7, 2001 4:39 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
Here's what we think is going on:

Whatever Forum you start an OMNI thread in (be it FT Miles, FT Travel, FT Airports, or FT Dining) is the Forum that "owns" it from then on. This is regardless of where you post a reply from. So, if I start an OMNI thread in FT Travel, and you view it from FT Miles, and even reply to it from there, you'll still end up in Travel's OMNI.
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OK, that's what I thought originally. Thanks. But one of the threads where this was happening was one that I started, and I am almost 100% certain that I started it in Miles, because I rarely if ever access FT from Travel. I'll be more careful next time.

On another or related issue (again, not a big deal, just a curiosity), this OMNI thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/003262.html
is 2 pages long. However, if you access it from the Miles OMNI page/list of threads, it shows only one page. If you access it from the Travel OMNI page/list, it shows both page 1 and 2.

doc Nov 7, 2001 7:33 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cactuspete:

OK, that's what I thought originally. Thanks. But one of the threads where this was happening was one that I started, and I am almost 100% certain that I started it in Miles, because I rarely if ever access FT from Travel. I'll be more careful next time.

On another or related issue (again, not a big deal, just a curiosity), this OMNI thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/003262.html
is 2 pages long. However, if you access it from the Miles OMNI page/list of threads, it shows only one page. If you access it from the Travel OMNI page/list, it shows both page 1 and 2.
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Agreed. FWIW, I too have seen cases where the thread was seemingly started in MilesBuzz orignally - and yet a 'transfer' to Travel occurs. There are also several threads that do the same thing regarding "revealing" thread numers (1,2,3) such as:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/002964.html

Anyway, "no biggie" as some of my West Coast friends say! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

dan at WebFlyer Nov 8, 2001 10:25 am

as far as the misnumbered thread listings (showing two pages when there are actually three, etc.)...

That could be caused by posting a reply to an OMNI thread from a different Forum than you're seeing the listing in, which isn't spurring your Forum to update its thread count. In other words, if I reply to a thread from FT Travel, FT Miles isn't going to know there's been a thread update until someone posts to that same thread from FT Miles. Each Forum uses its own thread index script...

again, an unfortunate side-effect...


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