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Recent TalkBoard Election Results
I'd like to be the first to congratulate and welcome the newly elected members to the TalkBoard. These five members will join the incumnent TalkBoard members techgirl, Spiff, Jenbel and bhatnasx. As well, these members will have up to four weeks to elect the President of the new TalkBoard session.
Listed in order of finish: 1. gleff - 507 (returning member) 2. Cholula - 441(returning member) 3. lucky9876coins - 341 4. Punki - 241 5. kokonutz - 229 ** Should there be any need to fulfill any members term, the following candidates were next in order of finish: berlinflyer - 216 nsx - 210 ClueByFour - 202 Radioman - 179 kanebear - 138 FewMiles - 134 skofarrell - 128 GoldFlyer - 117 RichMSN - 115 UALOneKPlus - 103 Weatherboy - 82 GenevaFlyer - 74 NOLAnwGOLD - 48 Pizzaman - 48 satori - 40 Elizabethh - 30 the_traveler - 26 LadyPhoenix - 17 TooMuchTravel73 - 16 rexb - 5 As well, many thanks to the outgoing members of the TalkBoard: ScottC ozstamps Dovster (elected last year to fill out the remaining year of missydarlin's term) ** This candidate and elected member is currently serving a 30-day suspension for violation of existing TOS guidelines and rules and will be eligible to rejoin the members of FlyerTalk and other TalkBoard members as of Dec. 25. We experienced a much lower turnout this years than in past years and I thin it might be related to two things: our general members really do enjoy FlyerTalk for its topics of miles, points and travel and are completely happy with it the way it is and as well, this year because of some technical things related to the changeover, we did not have in place our usual banner ad program to get out the vote nor our highly popular "I Voted" avatars. I expect that next year we'll have gotten this back under control and look forward to then. But you know, there's just nothing wrong with members happy with the way things are. |
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Well I think the election 07 has been a total and utter farce. Some folk did not even bother to take part in the questions/answers but still polled a lot of votes? What was the point in having the dicussions? Is it the old pals act? I dont know. I dont know these peoples views on the things that where raised, was it due to the threads that they are in? It was very clear from the outset and I told folk openly at the time that this election process was flawed due to the obvious attacks that folk were making against TB and the moderators. I really feel sorry for TB as I feel that there is going to be trouble as some folk are on the war path for change and they certainly showed their views in the question forum (well at least they replied to the questions). I cant believe that someone was suspended for breaching the TOS but still allowed to take part in the elections. That in itself was a joke. There has been a lot of things going on in the background during this election and I can only say that if this is similar to American Politics then you can keep them. I would shout conspiracy at the whole lot but will get shot down from folks, but there was clearly two camps in this election, us poor sods in the 3rd camp did not stand a chance. Totally and utterly sick of it all. |
To clarify and then perhaps it will be less of a topic: The member participated in the debates and election just as any other member was allowed and encouraged to do. Any action taken to suspend him occurred afterwards and only based on his own posting behavior, just as that of any other member.
The only intent in mentioning this point was that "suspended" appears under this members name and this mention was only an attempt to explain that. For what it is worth, in the past, other members of the TalkBoard have taken some time away from FlyerTalk. Regardless of their current status, we welcome these newly elected members. |
Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 8793087)
I don't know, 2 of my 3 votes were for winners. ^
Yes, the third vote was for myself. Congrats koko and Punki and the rest of the winners. All I can see is major arguements with TB committee and the whole thing turning into one big pile of dog pooh. Folk have agendas for trying to deal with the moderators and past history show these folk up. But what the heck its been done know, lets just light the blue touch paper and stand back. |
Originally Posted by Radioman
(Post 8793115)
The campaign this year was "LETS GET THE MODERATORS". Thats what it was all about ANTI-MODERATION. So many times it turned back to moderators.
All I can see is major arguements with TB committee and the whole thing turning into one big pile of dog pooh. Folk have agendas for trying to deal with the moderators and past history show these folk up. But what the heck its been done know, lets just light the blue touch paper and stand back. |
Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 8793121)
Have you ever considered that the voters might just be sending a message?
But then again, will be ever know the truth about it is? I will stand by my words about this campaign, I said it at the start of it all. |
Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
(Post 8793055)
For what it is worth, in the past, other members of the TalkBoard have taken some time away from FlyerTalk.
Regardless of their current status, we welcome these newly elected members. Oh well. I'm sure someone has a rationale for this. Bizarre. |
Originally Posted by Radioman
(Post 8793153)
Have you ever considered about a conspiracy during this election to make damn sure some folk got on TB to push the anti-moderator view, even though this is clearly outwith TB members remit.
But then again, will be ever know the truth about it is? I will stand by my words about this campaign, I said it at the start of it all. |
Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 8793250)
Conspiracy? Huh? Each of us only get 5 votes.
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Originally Posted by Jenbel
(Post 8793295)
Yes, IMHO, if those TB members cannot stay within the rules that all other FT members are meant to stay within. It's relatively easy to stay within the TOS. I'm on 15k posts and have never even had a warning! :)
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Congrats to those who ran and were successful.
Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 8793250)
Conspiracy? Huh? Each of us only get 5 votes.
I have 15 votes to disperse.........please tell me who not to vote for Something to think about. |
While I had hoped that with my comments above this thread would not head this way, I'll answer this for the benefit of others including yourself. Actually your use of the word "people" is an error. I am solely the person who gave the suspension to this member and it was backed by using the facts of the TOS and it was applied to this member in the same week as another member being suspended who was not running for election or anything similar. The facts are that both members who decided to ignore a common provision in our TOS were treated the same, it did not matter whether it was a candidate for election or not.
It would appear you are trying to reference in our volunteer Moderators and the facts are that they were not involved in any way so to the decision to suspend this members privileges. I made the decision alone. End of your story i hope. BTW, i thought you had a number of good things to say in your candidacy and hope that you'll consider running again in the future.
Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 8793272)
Should people who can levy suspensions be able to, effectively, remove duly-elected people from the TalkBoard?
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Rich your totally and utterly BUSTED on what this whole thing has been about, yes the conspiracy is there for all to see.
I would suggest strongly that these elections be declared null and void and ran again as I dont have any confidence in the outcome of the vote at all. |
Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 8793272)
Should people who can levy suspensions be able to, effectively, remove duly-elected people from the TalkBoard or prevent people from being elected?
It's not a dig on moderation or anything like that -- it's a serious question, one which I think the current (non) policy addresses best. 1. No candidate was suspended during the election. The policy in place, as I understood it, was that Randy was to review in advance any suspension that was necessary as a result of candidates violating the TOS. 2. The process to remove someone from TalkBoard is a 2/3rds vote by the TalkBoard. The published TalkBoard guidelines specify five things that would warrant (but not require) such a removal, and one is TOS violations. |
Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
(Post 8793352)
While I had hoped that with my comments above this thread would not head this way, I'll answer this for the benefit of others including yourself. Actually your use of the word "people" is an error. I am solely the person who gave the suspension to this member and it was backed by using the facts of the TOS and it was applied to this member in the same week as another member being suspended who was not running for election or anything similar. The facts are that both members who decided to ignore a common provision in our TOS were treated the same, it did not matter whether it was a candidate for election or not.
It would appear you are trying to reference in our volunteer Moderators and the facts are that they were not involved in any way so to the decision to suspend this members privileges. I made the decision alone. End of your story i hope. BTW, i thought you had a number of good things to say in your candidacy and hope that you'll consider running again in the future. Honestly, I wasn't referring specifically to kokonutz. I was answering the original post in the most generic way possible giving a plausible reason why it would not be good to eliminate suspended members from running for or sitting on the TB. I know that such a suspension has happened before to other members and will likely happen again. Going down to 8 active TB members for 30 days isn't exactly tragic and it's something voters can consider if a suspended person runs for re-election. BTW, I actually said "people" in my post to include you, as I don't traditionally think of you as a moderator. Had I just meant the group of volunteer moderators, I would've just said "moderators." |
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