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Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 7600531)
On 17 April 2007, the TalkBoard, by a vote of 5-4 failed to pass the following:
Moved by Dovster and seconded by Cholula: 1. Posts in the OMNI forum will not count toward any member's post tally and this shall be made retroactive to the beginning of Omni. 2. Any person Omni-enabled when and if this vote is passed will be allowed to continue to post on Omni even if this motion reduces his post count to below the 180-post minimum. Voting for: bhatnasx, Cholula, Dovster, ozstamps, techgirl Voting against: gleff, Jenbel, ScottC, Spiff TalkBoard bylaws require a 2/3 majority of votes cast for a motion to pass. All I can say is Code:
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Originally Posted by redbeard911
(Post 7601128)
Does FT have a double-jeopardy rule?
Next time, TB members, there is a little known function in Flyertalk, called the search function, please use it before passing motions :p
Originally Posted by MapleLeaf
(Post 7600878)
Praise Jesus that the motion failed.
Originally Posted by underpressure
(Post 7602609)
but thanks to JFE if that's who you are talking about....
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Originally Posted by MapleLeaf
(Post 7600878)
Praise Jesus that the motion failed.
I will remember who voted in favour of it and ensure I campaign against them next time... ah I love a democracy.
Originally Posted by RKG
(Post 7601000)
I will remember who voted in against it and ensure I campaign against them next time... ah I love a democracy.
Thank you: bhatnasx, Cholula, Dovster, ozstamps, techgirl |
As I have said in Omni, those who moved for the passage of this motion should excuse themselves from Omni since it doesn’t serve their cause… that’s just my opinion..
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Originally Posted by ewrfox
(Post 7605076)
As I have said in Omni, those who moved for the passage of this motion should excuse themselves from Omni since it doesn’t serve their cause… that’s just my opinion..
As the person who made this motion -- and who has at least twice the number of Omni posts that you do -- I completely disagree. There was no argument being made to close Omni or to keep anyone from posting in it. In fact, the motion specifically guaranteed that anyone currently Omni-enabled would be allowed to continue to post there, even if his post count dropped below 180. This motion was about counting posts, not about posting. If Randy feels that because I do not favor counting Omni posts he wants to remove all such posts from my count, I will not object in the slightest. As I said in another thread where you made the same statement, if there is anybody who judges his own worth on the number of posts listed under his name, or the title which appears there, he has a serious self-esteem problem. |
Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 7605135)
As I said in another thread where you made the same statement, if there is anybody who judges his own worth on the number of posts listed under his name, or the title which appears there, he has a serious self-esteem problem.
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I would like to thank the TalkBoard members who voted against this proposal.
I look forward to targeted discussions of specific problems in the future. |
Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 7605135)
As I said in another thread where you made the same statement, if there is anybody who judges his own worth on the number of posts listed under his name, or the title which appears there, he has a serious self-esteem problem. If you don’t care about titles or whatnot, then I ask you make a motion to eliminate the FT title status.. |
Originally Posted by ewrfox
(Post 7605205)
If you don’t care about titles or whatnot, then I ask you make a motion to eliminate the FT title status..
I have already said both in public forums and on the private TB forum that I favor getting rid of both post counts and all titles -- not just "Evangelist" and "Legend" but also "Moderator" and "TalkBoard Member". (The latter two would and should be used when the poster is writing in his official position.) Currently, there is no point in my making such a motion as I do not see any chance of it passing. I do not intend to waste TB's time, and start off another big debate here, on any motion unless I believe that there is a possibility of it passing. |
Originally Posted by Gargoyle
(Post 7604341)
I will remember all nine TB members with a new respect and appreciation; and any who choose to run again will be in the forefront of candidates whom I consider supporting.
Of the nine TalkBoard members, I have personally met six of them, five of them more than once. Of the remaining three, I have communicated with all of them more than once. I am confident that I know all nine TalkBoard members well enough to comment. I do not believe there was an ulterior motive, regardless of which side of the issue they voted. Rather, I believe that this issue was communicated to them by other FlyerTalk members, which resulted in their response to act accordingly in the interest of serving the membership of FlyerTalk. I am certain that the reaction included intense discussion and careful consideration. I also believe that there was no other intention of the TalkBoard members other than to attempt to do what is right and what is best for FlyerTalk. Serving on behalf of the membership of FlyerTalk is their ultimate responsibility, and I believe they were acting to the best of their abilities. I commend each one of them for the thankless task of taking on this contentious and controversial issue, regardless of their position. Well, TalkBoard members, your task is no longer thankless. I want to thank all of you for trying to make FlyerTalk a better place for all of us, and thank your for your selfless volunteer service to the FlyerTalk community at large. Thank you also for launching this thread to listen to what other members of the FlyerTalk community have to say. Like Gargoyle, I appreciate and respect what you have done for the community. Please do not let the criticism quell your desire to serve the FlyerTalk community, no matter how controversial the issue might be. I have been approached quite a number of times to run for TalkBoard, but I simply do not have the spare time to currently serve FlyerTalk and its members well enough to consider taking on the job. I realize the work and effort that it takes to do the job correctly. However, for those of you who truly believe and think that you can do a better job, I encourage you to run, don’t walk (a Dovster-ism), for the job of TalkBoard member when it is time for the next election. Again, TalkBoard members — thank you for your service to FlyerTalk. |
Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 7605225)
I have already said both in public forums and on the private TB forum that I favor getting rid of both post counts and all titles -- not just "Evangelist" and "Legend" but also "Moderator" and "TalkBoard Member". (The latter two would and should be used when the poster is writing in his official position.)
Currently, there is no point in my making such a motion as I do not see any chance of it passing. I do not intend to waste TB's time, and start off another big debate here, on any motion unless I believe that there is a possibility of it passing. |
I'm glad to be wrong. :)
My thanks to those TB members who didn't vote in support of this motion. |
I would like to thank the TalkBoard members who voted for this proposal.
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Thank you to those who voted against the proposal, but thanks to all TB members for devoting the energy and concern to doing what you think is best for FT regardless of your vote. I may not agree with every vote, but I firmly believe that all TB members vote their heart based on what they think is best for FT.
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Originally Posted by restlessinRNO
(Post 7605492)
I would like to thank the TalkBoard members who voted for this proposal.
Perhaps one day FlyerTalk will jettison its burdensome and inconvenient attention to "miles and points" entirely. We can only hope that day is sooner rather than later. :rolleyes: |
I am with Canarsie on this one.
Many thanks to all the TalkBoard members for their efforts and for keeping cool throughout this contentious debate. It would appear that all TalkBoard members listened to the community, weighed the input, and voted their conscience, without bias, and, moreover, consistently refusing to accept bribes of miles and points from any quarter. ;) We should be so lucky as to have all of our elected representatives behave in this honorable fashion. |
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