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Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 7545441)
I didn't ask their opinion.
Since Randy (and I guess that means the new owners as of now) leaves this stuff to the TB, I actually care more about what they think.
Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
(Post 7545448)
But that's not the only problem.
We have tons of posters who spend virtually all of their time and energy on FlyerTalk posting in non-countdown/count-up threads in OMNI. Political threads, social threads, you name it. None of which further this community's understanding and appreciation of travel. The proposal is not to shut down OMNI. Those of us who enjoy posting in OMNI, like you and I, will be free to continue to do so without restriction. The only consequence is that our posts in OMNI will not inflate the statistical measure of our contribution to OMNI. So what? For those who find post counts meaningful, counting only posts in the travel-related fora will further enhance their meaning. For those that find them irrelevant, not being credited for posting in OMNI inherently cannot be of any consequence. There's no downside to this proposal other than the apparent fact that some posters will find their post counts dramatically reduced, which may cost them the glorified rank of "Evangelist" (and the like). |
Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
(Post 7545448)
But that's not the only problem.
We have tons of posters who spend virtually all of their time and energy on FlyerTalk posting in non-countdown/count-up threads in OMNI. Political threads, social threads, you name it. None of which further this community's understanding and appreciation of travel. .... |
Originally Posted by cblaisd
(Post 7545457)
Well, there you go. I think you prove my point quite nicely.
For those that can only talk about points and miles and the mission of FT revolving around that, I would actually like to see all the forums shut off except for the points/miles forums for a month. Then I'd like to see by how much the number posts and quality drop in the points/miles forums. Let's see if I can do the small size thing: And I'd like to see if FT would be such a lucrative acquisition target then. |
Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
(Post 7545448)
But that's not the only problem.
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Originally Posted by RichMSN
(Post 7545473)
Exactly why do threads like this one exist?
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Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
(Post 7545448)
There's no downside to this proposal other than the apparent fact that some posters will find their post counts dramatically reduced, which may cost them the glorified rank of "Evangelist" (and the like).
As I said earlier, "I wouldn't be surprised if this motion results in more clutter on the travel threads, thus doing little to accomplish those goals stated by those advocating on behalf of this motion" -- particularly vis-a-vis those who most care about their own post count and such monikers and less about value-added to the "core mission". Perhap "this will lead to post padding problems in other forums". I'd be anything but shocked by that .... and I suspect it will lead to some of that. That's a downside to this proposal that will be realized sooner or later since it'll make "mission focus" even more difficult. |
Originally Posted by jpdx
(Post 7545479)
Newest OMNI waste of time? :p
^ Great post by the quoted poster! ^ |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 7545474)
So there are other motives behind advancing this motion.
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Originally Posted by underpressure
(Post 7545470)
So long as the same logic is applied to Community Buzz, The OT BA and Canda, The Lounges, 99% of TSS, Coupon Connection, SPAM, and a few others... I will agree with you. When they are singling out OMNI as the "worthless post crowd" I will dissent. There are loads of other worthless posters here.
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Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
(Post 7545448)
The proposal is not to shut down OMNI. Those of us who enjoy posting in OMNI, like you and I, will be free to continue to do so without restriction. The only consequence is that our posts in OMNI will not inflate the statistical measure of our contribution to OMNI.
Originally Posted by underpressure
(Post 7545470)
So long as the same logic is applied to Community Buzz, The OT BA and Canada, The Lounges, 99% of TSS, Coupon Connection, SPAM, and a few others... I will agree with you. When they are singling out OMNI as the "worthless post crowd" I will dissent. There are loads of other worthless posters here.
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Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
(Post 7545448)
We have tons of posters who spend virtually all of their time and energy on FlyerTalk posting in non-countdown/count-up threads in OMNI. Political threads, social threads, you name it. None of which further this community's understanding and appreciation of travel.
Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
There's no downside to this proposal other than the apparent fact that some posters will find their post counts dramatically reduced, which may cost them the glorified rank of "Evangelist" (and the like). Which in my estimation is a good thing.
And most important: the TB will be stating that post counts are tied to travel intelligence (after all, this is the stated "problem" that is being "solved"). Folks with higher post counts will be expected to be more savvy and no more than those with lower post counts. I'm not sure if TB wants to be in the business of setting that type of expectation. |
Originally Posted by Gargoyle
(Post 7545518)
OMNI is separate from the rest of FT. Randy set things up that way for a reason, with a great wall dividing. There is logic in separating the counts from OMNI from the rest of the counts, whereas cherry-picking all over the multitude of fora and discounting those which you don't like is a completely different bird.
You see the problem here is that the proponents can't get their story straight. Is the problem about getting bad advice from Evangelists? Is it not about fostering a community? Is it jealousy? |
Originally Posted by Spiff (Post #1)
(Post 7533974)
Moved by Dovster and seconded by Cholula:
1. Posts in the OMNI forum will not count toward any member's post tally and this shall be made retroactive to the beginning of Omni. * * * * It is really a re-emphasis of what FlyerTalk is supposed to be all about. The argument that this change would increase the number of Omni-like posts in the substantive travel threads is not a dispositive one, because it ignores the efforts of our hard-working Moderator Corps. Bravo Zulu to all concerned. I look forward to the implementation of this thoughtful proposal. :cool: |
Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 7545530)
It's not a different bird if the stated problem is this lunacy about high post count = travel intelligence.
You see the problem here is that the proponents can't get their story straight. Is the problem about getting bad advice from Evangelists? Is it not about fostering a community? Is it jealousy? a) Some are acting to prevent tarnishing a status they currently own (or covet, or hold in esteem). b) Some are honestly trying to make a better metric for "reputation", (however much you or I may disagree with the chosen mechanism). c) Some just plain hate the whole idea of OMNI, and see an opportunity to swipe at it by flying the flag of "a" or "b". I failed the Clairvoyance practical in my Paranormal-Psych class, so I have no idea who is who. :D |
Originally Posted by SlowTrekker
(Post 7545593)
a) Some are acting to prevent tarnishing a status they currently own (or covet, or hold in esteem).
b) Some are honestly trying to make a better metric for "reputation", (however much you or I may disagree with the chosen mechanism). c) Some just plain hate the whole idea of OMNI, and see an opportunity to swipe at it by flying the flag of "a" or "b". |
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