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I propose to the Talk Board to discuss, and eventually propose to Randy, to close the OMNI Forum for a 'cool-down' period of some days (a week?).

Rudi,

While I agree that the behaivior of a FEW people has gotten out of hand in OMNI, I fail to see what closing the forum would accomplish.

I think the far more important question is about self control and how many posts/threads a day is too many.

Either we need to increase the time delay in flood control or limit the number of posts per day.

I do not seriously think that if OMNI is closed for say a week, the culprits are going to change their habits.

Rudi, is there some specific reason you make this proposal?

Rudi I am not sure that I agree with you.
I for one limit my visits to OMNI as I do not like doing searches to find a thread I posted in the day before. But I feel it sure has cleaned up the mess that used to be in other threads with topics that were like only related to the fourum by the Kevin Bacon Game
But I would ask that you elaborate as there seems to be several threads running concurrently in OMNI on what the problem is.
Thank you

some of the reasons, for me, are discussed here
http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...ML/007367.html

others are, that I see/read now extreme political headlines (and posts) from all side there, that are mostly not done with the intentions to start a good debate, but just for starting 'trouble making'.

There are specifically five Flyertalkers who have all seemingly decided to forget self-discipline and control and just let loose with this posting diarrhea. They embarrass themselves. If there's a problem, give them a time-out. They are clearly the ones instigating this nonsense.

doc, on the other hand, puts thought into his posts, and they are typically posts about current events, interesting things. These other people are hijacking OMNI to make it revolve around THEM and what THEY want. If they can't have Flyertalk for themselves, then NO ONE can enjoy it.

Go back home to your mommies.

[This message has been edited by anonplz (edited 10-28-2002).]

What's the thought process involved in reproducing the NYT site on OMNI? You may want to review doc's news sources as well -- I counted 13 ananova in a row yesterday morning.

Not that simple. You have to go to the site, find news about current events/topics of debate, actually READ the article, find a concise paragraph or two which summarizes the information, post a new topic, copy and paste the hyperlink - it's time-consuming, and I believe he has indicated that he is on a 56k connection, so there's some real dedication there.

Having said that, Randy and a majority of FTer's have made it clear that he is a valuable member, and that's that.

Perhaps when the economy goes sour, or people are having personal problems, he is an easy target for their anger. Too bad. I believe Randy should time them out, and let them go cry somewhere else. I am not interested in it, and probably most others here feel likewise.

I don't think we're going to agree if your opinion is that finding "current events/topics of debate" on the NYT is somehow difficult. [btw, time consuming doesn't make something thoughtful.]

Articles are not summarized by those who post them (whoever does it) -- rather the opening paragraphs are copied and pasted.

Being a valuable member is not an entitlement to post to 98 threads in one forum in one day.

Whatever anger I may feel, it is out of annoyance at having OMNI be a dumping ground for every new story out there found by a single person (or small number of persons.) It may be a good defense to suggest that this is a personal vendetta, but it's not. I quite enjoy quirky, off beat omni posts that lead to interesting and often funny discussions. Any kind of discussion gets relegated to page 85763 of omni very quickly when anyone doesn't practice some level of moderation.

I speak for myself here -- perhaps you can limit your posts to your opinion also rather than assume how the majority "probably" feels.

OK, put your money where your mouth is. Name your five "axis of evil members" so that they may speak up in response to your accusations.

FewMiles..

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No, thanks. That would serve no good purpose. Suffice it to say they (well, really, all of us) know who they are.

Besides, there will ALWAYS be others to take their place when they've pushed on.

Bottom Line: OMNI is not the problem. OMNI is essentially what it's members contribute to it. If you are upset with what's going on in OMNI ("extreme political" threads, completely superficial pointless threads, whatever), stay out of it.

I can wade through all the new threads, though it can get tedious.

No, SMessier, there is plenty of information right in Flyertalk supporting my claim that a majority of Flyertalkers "probably" do feel doc is a valuable contributor, and naysayers are wrong. In this case, I stand by my claim that the majority "probably" does feel that way. Period.

[This message has been edited by anonplz (edited 10-28-2002).]

So true... and as such, what point is there running people off then?

I look to OMNI for my daily source of humor, trivia, or just plain nonsense. I think chexfan had (at one point) a great thread going on all the things that made OMNI wonderful when it is at its best.

And I do think that the reposting of the entire NYTimes was uncalled for this weekend. I was not amused to log on to OMNI yesterday to find dozens of single poster threads supressing the ones with multiposter content. If I want to debate the news, I'll do so with the morons on Yahoo. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

And FWIW, when it comes to OMNI, I just plain miss chexy and geo. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

I see.

I await more information on the difference between doc's many no replies random news item threads and those 5 others you are unwilling to name.

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Having already dropped posting general news items, I'd be pleased to also (essentially split the difference between 0-13.5 posts/day) and go with a kind of self imposed "cap" with an average 7 posts/day!

Maybe you are personalizing my remarks too much. I am making a contribution towards improving Flyertalk by giving voice to my opinion as to the idea that OMNI is a problem and must be stopped. I guess that's all I want to address, and I've said what I need to for now.

(Okay, exhale - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif )

[This message has been edited by anonplz (edited 10-28-2002).]