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-   -   Voting Over, Motion Passed: Create Four Budget Airline Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkboard-topics/1506879-voting-over-motion-passed-create-four-budget-airline-forums.html)

CaptRobPhD Oct 3, 2013 3:25 pm

Air Asia good example...
 
...of the extraregionality as well. They (Air Asia X) are flying the big Airbusses (A330s not 76s :cool:) well outside the distances of more conventional LCCs. Just like mainline carriers dabbling in 6th-8th Freedoms, it's wholly possible, nay probable, to see the LCCs doing the same sort of thing in the not so different future, especially if a market becomes slightly developed but unsustainable at Legacy costs.

rathin100 Oct 4, 2013 11:11 am

I vote No. No FFP no forum + we should talk airlines not create new categories in the same industry

Oops I didn't realise I don't have a vote... Change " vote" to " petition" in the above sentence :)

CaptRobPhD Oct 4, 2013 11:25 am

Huh +?
 
Every industry has multiple competing categories (in a market economy), even multiple segments within a company. I suppose you could debate the merits of collusion but if arguing the business case for LCCs is the precedent for not finding value in forums designed for travelers and not airline industry execs, I don't really see a relationship between the two items.

There are strong business + differentiated leisure arguments for LCCs; the same rationale should apply to their separate forums need here. It (the LCC) is un underrepresented segment here with no place to find a 'home' :D

Mr Post script here: the only compelling reasons I see for LCCs NOT having their own fora/um are increased Moderator workload and/or bandwidth or storage issues--both legit, I suppose, but each surmountable (the former especially, the latter up to IT/$ smart peeps). The arguments that adding a couple new pages makes searching/information harder to find (i.e., I've never used the LGBT page not because it's not valuable but because it's irrelevant to me--people look where they want/need and not where they do not; having extra topics is only cumbersome to those very few users who browse every section) doesn't seem substantiated; that LCCs not having 'programs' for FF is somewhat false but definitely dated, considering the nonFF program information in the other airline pages; and that people are already finding information they need elsewhere lacks vision: nobody needed a handheld computer until Apple made it indispensable :cool:

Icarusian Oct 4, 2013 5:20 pm

For me, we should have a LCC forum and sub forums for the major ones as well as general ones by region as suggested. I'd like to see an EZY one and an FR one for example.

TravelinSperry Oct 4, 2013 11:01 pm

I love this idea! And disagree with many of the posters. I travel around the world - and one forum is cumbersome. I don't want to sift through one forum to find budget carriers where I am. Listing it by destination is very helpful. I travel through Europe 3 mos at a time. Why do I want to sift through post after post about Air Asia? No. Better to have multiple threads (for those of us who find the search functionality of flyertalk lacking).

However, I think 3 threads should do it:
Budget Asian, Australian and South Pacific Airlines
Budget European Airlines, Middle East and Africa Airlines
Budget North and South America Airlines

flyingnosh Oct 5, 2013 5:35 pm

Can someone explain why we need a "Budget" forum? My guess is that there are two kinds of posters on FT. One kind is interested in frequent flyer miles. Those will post their questions in the appropriate airline forum. The other kind is not interested in frequent flyer miles and just wants to get from A to B. Why not just have general flight advice forums for those? Just delete the word "Budget" from the proposed names.

SkiAdcock Oct 6, 2013 2:38 pm

Four Budget Airlines Forums will pass...
 
In accordance with the guidelines that means we'll announce if a motion has passed or failed once enough yes or no votes have been recorded by TB members, this is the public notice that this motion will pass as it has secured 6 yes votes.

Please note that not all TB members have voted yet, and so a final announcement with who voted yes/no will not be posted until all 9 have voted or the voting period ends.

Spiff Oct 6, 2013 5:20 pm

Poor decision. :td:

FlyerTalk is further fragmented by unnecessary additional forums that have little or nothing to do with FF miles/points.

kipper Oct 6, 2013 5:33 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 21564435)
Poor decision. :td:

FlyerTalk is further fragmented by unnecessary additional forums that have little or nothing to do with FF miles/points.

Oh, yay, four new forums. Just what we need. :rolleyes:

travelkid Oct 6, 2013 6:00 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 21563804)
In accordance with the guidelines that means we'll announce if a motion has passed or failed once enough yes or no votes have been recorded by TB members, this is the public notice that this motion will pass as it has secured 6 yes votes.

Please note that not all TB members have voted yet, and so a final announcement with who voted yes/no will not be posted until all 9 have voted or the voting period ends.

^

Thanks to TB@:-)

obscure2k Oct 6, 2013 9:31 pm

I believe this is a good decision. Thank you, TalkBoard.

tcook052 Oct 7, 2013 12:43 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 21563804)
In accordance with the guidelines that means we'll announce if a motion has passed or failed once enough yes or no votes have been recorded by TB members, this is the public notice that this motion will pass as it has secured 6 yes votes.

Disappointing to hear as the rate at which forums are created IMHO can't be sustained indefinitely without impacting FT's usefulness. Adding these four new ones pushes the forum count towards 200 leaving me to wonder if there is a ceiling this TB is willing to accept. Is 300 fine? How about 500? Or maybe 700? How many is too many forums?

GUWonder Oct 7, 2013 12:52 am

Can we also have four budget hotel forums, in the same regional alignment as the four budget airlines forums, even for those which have no miles/points "loyalty" programs? I would like that as much as these four new airline forums -- which is to say that I don't favor this kind of forum proliferation and related dilution.

SkiAdcock Oct 7, 2013 6:57 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 21564435)
forums that have little or nothing to do with FF miles/points.

While FT is about miles & points, it has evolved over the years to more than just miles & points.

Using your criteria, the current airline/hotel forums - if we were to limit them to just miles/points discussions - would be very small/limited as we stripped out every thread that had nothing to do with miles & points, such as property reviews or the quality of the drink offerings in the airline lounges.

Cheers.

jackal Oct 7, 2013 10:35 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 21566764)
While FT is about miles & points, it has evolved over the years to more than just miles & points.

Using your criteria, the current airline/hotel forums - if we were to limit them to just miles/points discussions - would be very small/limited as we stripped out every thread that had nothing to do with miles & points, such as property reviews or the quality of the drink offerings in the airline lounges.

Cheers.

Yup.

I just counted, and 13 of the 30 threads on the first page of the Alaska Airlines forum have absolutely nothing to do (at all) with the Mileage Plan program. Several of the rest are about the experience on the airline that are only very slightly related to the FFP. We are now much more than miles and points.


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