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Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 17339322)
A general question about handle changes... If a poster is on someone's ignore list, and that poster requests, and is granted a handle change, does the person who opted to ignore them have to add the new handle to their ignore list?
Back on topic for this thread: I guess I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around all of this. It clearly states, as was cited from the TOS in post #17 by Dovster, what the protocol is for asking for a handle change. Sounds a little like reinventing the wheel unless someone feels one aspect of that part of the TOS needs revision for a specific reason. I'm not sure kipper's stance that it would cause problems in OMNI or CC has much merit either. Posters can only request a handle change once, so at best (or worst, depending on your point of view), OMNI posters only need to deal with trollish behavior at most twice from the same person. |
Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 17339322)
I could see where handle changes could be used to "game" the system in CC or OMNI, unless everyone is made aware that the poster changed their handle.
Originally Posted by lo2e
(Post 17340039)
Back on topic for this thread: I guess I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around all of this. It clearly states, as was cited from the TOS in post #17 by Dovster, what the protocol is for asking for a handle change.
We also have much newer member being granted a change per the Feb 06 policy, while another with a much longer history of contributing was denied a change. |
Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 17340325)
That's where a "Formerly known as ..." title would come in. The question would be how long that title should appear. 180 days? A year?
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Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 17340909)
If it's in a signature though, there are people who have signatures turned off and won't see it. I'd prefer something under the handle, and for 90 days or so.
I would be very surprised if one would have to re-add the new handle to one's ignore list. I would fully expect any ignore-list selections to carry over (it's probably handled behind the scenes by user number rather than by specific text-based name). |
It's late, I'm tired, but my understanding is that people can request a 1-time only change & the under the handle or next to the handle or the dual handle exists for 30 days. To me that's enough for a changeover re: the dual handles.
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 17343225)
I would fully expect any ignore-list selections to carry over (it's probably handled behind the scenes by user number rather than by specific text-based name).
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Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 17343225)
Unfortunately, it turns out that under the handle is not logistically feasible.
I would be very surprised if one would have to re-add the new handle to one's ignore list. I would fully expect any ignore-list selections to carry over (it's probably handled behind the scenes by user number rather than by specific text-based name).
Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 17343237)
It's late, I'm tired, but my understanding is that people can request a 1-time only change & the under the handle or next to the handle or the dual handle exists for 30 days. To me that's enough for a changeover re: the dual handles.
Cheers. |
I'm not opposed to longer, but I think current policy is 30 days. I'm not sure there's enough reason to make it significantly longer, but am certainly willing to listen if there's a groundswell of support.
Cheers. |
How many handle changes have been requested and how many have been approved over the last 12 months? The last 24 months? 36? I'd like to understand how often these requests are made. I can't imagine it's that frequent that the TalkBoard needs to weigh in on this.
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Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 17343225)
Unfortunately, it turns out that under the handle is not logistically feasible.
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 17346795)
Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 17343225)
Unfortunately, it turns out that under the handle is not logistically feasible.
jackal, are you saying this is an exception and no longer possible on FT? I knew in this particular example, the poster had a handle change not long after the original signup date in 2008 (within weeks, if not months). |
Hey guess what- that was the FTer I remember. Looks like they've had that title for several years now. :eek:
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 17347654)
Hey guess what- that was the FTer I remember. Looks like they've had that title for several years now. :eek:
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Originally Posted by lin821
(Post 17347223)
jackal, are you saying this is an exception and no longer possible on FT? I knew in this particular example, the poster had a handle change not long after the original signup date in 2008 (within weeks, if not months).
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Under the handle vs. Signature...
I just saw another thread today, which could highlight the consistency issue.
I have no idea when this OP changed the handle but in this case, said FTer has no "Formerly Known as" notation under the handle. Without reading the signature line, I wouldn't have known the handle previously associated with this person. That brings about another confusion in consistency. Do FTers themselves get to choose between shown under the handle and signature when they request handle change? Why some have "former user name" under their handles (as my example in post#51) while some don't? Is that an admin's decision or users'? :confused: I am aware whoever meets the 90/90 can set up her/his own signature. So the signature option is not really an either-or choice. It appears to me under the handle notation should be a system default. I just don't understand why it is not applied to those who ever had a handle change? ETA: Just saw SanDiego1K's post. Carol and I happened to be replying at the same time, while I worked, well, much slower. Still, how the notation works (personal requests, timeframe...etc) is not fully covered in current TOS on handle change. More clarification of such TOS will certainly reduce unnecessary confusion. |
Originally Posted by lin821
(Post 17352024)
Without reading the signature line, I wouldn't have known the handle previously associated with this person.
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Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
(Post 17351961)
It is still technically possible but it requires admin to make a data entry and then remember to remove it at the time agreed upon. There is no automated process for either step. This is a superb example of why I prefer to request the member to show it as his/her signature for 30 days, rather than expect admin to remember to do so. I believe that this member was told that the former handle had to be shown for 30 days - but here it is, years on, and it's never been removed. (And if that member is reading this, and wants that note removed, please message me.)
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Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 17352196)
Originally Posted by lin821
(Post 17352024)
Without reading the signature line, I wouldn't have known the handle previously associated with this person.
As for the case how FT does NOT differentiate apostrophe, hypens, and underscore in handles, please join the party over Technical Issues Forum. ;) |
Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 17344945)
I'm not opposed to longer, but I think current policy is 30 days. I'm not sure there's enough reason to make it significantly longer, but am certainly willing to listen if there's a groundswell of support.
Cheers. I, too, am not opposed to longer but like Sharon am not fully convinced the need for longer exists.
Originally Posted by lin821
(Post 17347223)
I share your confusion. :confused:
jackal, are you saying this is an exception and no longer possible on FT? I knew in this particular example, the poster had a handle change not long after the original signup date in 2008 (within weeks, if not months). |
Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
(Post 17351961)
It is still technically possible but it requires admin to make a data entry and then remember to remove it at the time agreed upon. There is no automated process for either step. This is a superb example of why I prefer to request the member to show it as his/her signature for 30 days, rather than expect admin to remember to do so. I believe that this member was told that the former handle had to be shown for 30 days - but here it is, years on, and it's never been removed. (And if that member is reading this, and wants that note removed, please message me.)
If you are going to make a requirement to publicize a change, it should be in a form that everyone can see. |
I tried to get my name changed several times, never happened. Would love to get rid of this name.
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since not everyone has signatures turned on, I would prefer to see it under the handle as well....for 90 days and a certain number of posts. I would have no problem putting the impetus on the poster to request the removal after the required period.
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Originally Posted by missydarlin
(Post 17380946)
since not everyone has signatures turned on, I would prefer to see it under the handle as well....for 90 days and a certain number of posts. I would have no problem putting the impetus on the poster to request the removal after the required period.
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Originally Posted by missydarlin
(Post 17380946)
since not everyone has signatures turned on, I would prefer to see it under the handle as well....for 90 days and a certain number of posts. I would have no problem putting the impetus on the poster to request the removal after the required period.
I would expect that if the purpose of the notification of the name change is for the benefit of members, that a longer period of time be considered. Even 3 months seems short to me. It would also seem to me that having this notice running a minimum time, with the action of removing it to be the members' responsibility (in terms of an email for the notice to be removed) may be an easier approach to administrate. |
Are the unofficial rules still as presented in the OP? I am considering submitting a request because of privacy issues (due to the fact that my name is in my handle.)
Thanks! |
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